Oyster Barrier Tailgating

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  • What becomes of the broken hearted?

  • Spira. I used to love drinking tea through a Spira. Gone. Why Tommy?

  • Why can't you buy Marathon bars any more?

    you can
    http://www.marathonbars.com/

  • someone tailgated me once - I grabbed him by the jumper as he came past and delivered him to the station staff. The tube is already expensive enough - I don't want to give TFL any more reason to make it worse.

  • Fair enough.. knowingly letting someone tailgate is a criminal offense after all.If you are tailgated by a professional you wouldn't even know - its impressive to see it done well.

    Helps if your thin.. and australian in my experience.

    Love that youtube.. shows you the different culture in europe where the fares are honestly cheap but even an old granny is willing to helpout fare evasion research.

    Some of the posters on this thread need to watch it and take a good long hard look at themselfs.

  • I'm curious, what's the difference between fare dodging and your euphemism of 'fare evasion research'? I find the fact you feel the need to resort to a euphemism to describe your conduct highly illuminating.

    BTW, taken a good hard look and still consider fare dodgers to be cheating weasels who deserve everything they get. Sorry, 'individuals engaged in fare evasion research'. But still cheating weasels.

  • cheating... what game are you playing exactly?

    Whatever it is, I see no reason why you think I should be forced to join in.

  • It's called the 'being a responsible member of society rather than a freeloading wastrel' game. I don't think you've heard of it.

  • In follow up to what happened.. I chickened out and told them of their error before the court date. They withdrew their claim on the day.. a complete waste of public time and money.

    Sent them a request to pay reasonable costs that I've incurred which happened to be exactly the same amount as they charged me.. funny that.

    Still waiting to hear back on that one.. not hopeful.

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  • In follow up to what happened.. I chickened out and told them of their error before the court date. They withdrew their claim on the day.. a complete waste of public time and money.

    Sent them a request to pay reasonable costs that I've incurred which happened to be exactly the same amount as they charged me.. funny that.

    Still waiting to hear back on that one.. not hopeful.

    I call utter bullshit on everything you have been spouting.

    Get to fuck.

  • Get to fuck.

    Will he have to pay to get there?

  • Tommy, I've met you. You are a good guy. Surely you are trolling on a Scoble scale???

  • Tommy, in your professional opinion would this change make it easier to continue your research?

    Do you have any further findings?

  • dst - I'm not sure if 'easier' yet, certainly it will require a change research methods used and i've been thinking about it alot.

    One of the main purposes of ticket offices is to give tourists directions to Buckingham palace but they also serve an important secondary function of barrier use enforcement.

    I can certainly forsee a large rise in occurrences of tailgating, barrier jumping and my personal favorite yanking open the manual gate.

    I theorise that TFL believe the cost benefits will outweigh this and will attempt to counter this behavior with an increase in the use of undercover / spot checks by revenue protection employees probably working on a commission basis.

    But loopholes to spotchecks some travelers can simply use exist.
    *
    Same station exits.*
    Simply check in and then out again of the same station within 2 minutes and you are free to use the entire oystercard network for that day, only having to pay the minimum fare.

    http://www.tfl.gov.uk/tickets/14870.aspx

    As the oystercard system 'assumes' guilt upon doing this any spotcheck would show you as having valid card to travel, the money is recredited by a batch process at the end of the day.

    Isatb - yes sorry above post was an outragous prefriday troll

  • Interesting discovery yesterday - Cubic, provider of the Oyster technology, take a certain % of every pound spent on Oyster cards.

    Who can guess what that figure is?

  • Are you suggesting they are bigger thieves than Tommy?

  • 11.5%.

  • Higher

  • So they are going to move to contactless payment. Will this cut Cubic out of the picture?

  • Possibly, in that Oyster is effectively a currency of it's own- that's going to stop with the move to a different system, but that system will still need to be run by someone, even if they are taking payments in real time rather than translating your cash into "travel currency".

  • I thought the contactless payment just referred to the ticket machines.

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