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• #6302
To be fair, if memory serves, the arrows painted on the road of the LHS lane have a straight on/left arrow. Maybe.
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• #6303
You're right. The problem with the junction is that the left hook won't happen straight after the lights, you go on for a bit after the traffic lights, then cars will follow the curve of the road to the left without indicating.
Nothing at all to do with the cyclists.
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• #6304
You're right. The problem with the junction is that the left hook won't happen straight after the lights, you go on for a bit after the traffic lights, then cars will follow the curve of the road to the left without indicating.
Nothing at all to do with the cyclists.
In a way you're right. The 'left turn' into Camberwell New Rd doesn't look or feel like a left turn either cycling or driving but as a continuation, whereas the continuation onto Brixton road feels and looks like a right turn.
However there are plenty of junctions in London which are confusing and potentially dangerous and that's where you have to be most alert and really pay attention to road position.
I can't recall if there are two direction arrows in the left lane but turning(or continuing) on to Brixton road from the extreme left of the left lane is daft. I've been cycling through this part of London for years (and years) and if I'm heading down to Brixton I will get into the right lane or take the left lane and if the lights are red (which is the situation I was talking about) I would use the ASL to take a visible and central road position. -
• #6305
The lights I'm talking about are on the short bit of Brixton rd between Kennington Park Rd and Camberwell New Rd. The knobs are at the lights -where there is an ASL- all on the left side of the road, the lights change and they turn right across the traffic down towards Brixton.
This bit is generally a mess. Not helped by the state of disrepair the surface is in.
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• #6306
To the baby blue ss with red rims... Nice, undertake me and then skip lights without looking. Dooshbag
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• #6307
Me. Sorry. Got half way home and realised that my rear light was out of charge (it's one of the ones you have to plug in to charge) and I decided to keep going. I did have a fair amount of reflective stuff on but fuck me, that was stupid.
Also, the fuck is up with people having car headlight brightness spotlights on their handlebars? I get why they're useful on country lanes/trails, but on Camberwell New Road you just end up blinding traffic coming in the opposite direction.
Lights thread>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
EDIT: Sorry, should have been in I confess.
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• #6308
I rode like a total pratt today, on numerous occasions
I confess thread
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• #6309
No reason to not have lights, you can be sent lights from Hong Kong for about £1.50 a light... Always have a back up... Or 9 :)
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• #6310
It's a scramble, but more about bad road design, not bad cyclists.
Definitely this. That whole junction is a clusterfuck.
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• #6311
It needs a comprehensive redesign, but TfL are currently dodging most such schemes. What's coming out of the Junctions Review is very disappointing (not that I got my hopes up in the first place).
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• #6312
I think some of the problem is that some don't realise that to head from Kennington to Brixton is straight on but to go to Camberwell is a left turn. I have nearly been taken out twice by people turning left across me (I was in the middle of the left hand lane going towards Brixton) from the right lane without indicating.
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• #6313
Are there lane arrows? I can't remember. Surely just some big ol' GET IN LANE type motivation ahead of the spot would help?
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• #6314
Can't remember but I believe so, will check google maps
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• #6315
Left lane is left and straight on. Right lane is straight on. About 20 yds before the ASL
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• #6316
should make left lane left turn only
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• #6317
The problem is exacerbated by the bus lane with separate lights which feeds all the cyclists into the left lane ahead of the cars only to get stopped at the next lights all bunched up on the left.
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• #6318
We are so right
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• #6319
We are always right.
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• #6320
Nonsense, I bet some of you go to Camberwell.
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• #6321
Camberwell is definitely not right.
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• #6322
I always go through there Brixton-bound in primary in the left hand lane. Only ever have problems when bus drivers want to overtake going through the junction before pulling into the stop just after.
Agree that the whole network round there is a mess.
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• #6323
I skid through it with my balls out.
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• #6324
I got called out by a shopper lady today when she undertook me just before a junction I intended to turn left at, preventing me from getting on the utter left hand side of the road. I put my left arm out to make my turning left intentions perfectly clear, in case she was planning on going straight or right.
When the traffic light turned green, of course, she goes straight, and doesn't give me the space, I say "I'd like to turn left here please". She says "Well get in the FOOKING LEFT THEN INNIT". I say "I would love to but your fat ass is in the way". She started screaming, I called her a cunt. We both went our separate ways.
Previous to this, she undertook me at a zebra crossing I was waiting at and gave a fright to some poor chap.
Maybe I shouldn't have called her fat, or a cunt, but it felt good.
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• #6325
Even Lance Armstrong didn't call women fat.
I've seen worse things happen as cars turn left across CS7 to go towards Brixton. The whole Oval / Kennigton area is quite a mess. I used to be a bit naughty and go through Kennington Park and come out towards the jct of Foxley Rd. Much more peaceful.