Is it time to start calling out bad cyclists?

Is it time to stop calling out bad cyclists?

I've got to the stage where people riding like tossers just should be laughed at. Righteous indignation is really fucking yawn. If someone needs to ride on a footway (Old Kent Road anybody?) then let them. If no decent provision / traffic conditions allow people to want to ride on a road, then wtf, why shouldn't they ride on a footway if there's room?
Or jump ahead on a light to get an early start on motor traffic?

Maybe it's not even worth discussing. But I'm so over criticizing people for minor infringements, when I see hgvs at 35mph in a 20mph zone, people in minivans switching lanes into my path with not even a signal, close passing school run cunts, etc etc every day of the week.

Like Corndog once said, everyone on two wheels is a friend, let's quit this didactic competitive roadie 'I'm better than YOU, no YOU'RE a nodder' business.

^All this

Couldn't agree more. Well said

Up to a point. But some people are just dicks, they'd be dicks whether on a bike or driving a car. Excusing their behaviour doesn't do anyone any favours.
Excusing the routine casual law breaking from motorists does no one any favour either, but that's a side debate.

No, I said let's laugh at the twats.

I do enjoy the tales in this thread though. Please all don't stop sharing

Sorry Ben, when someone crashes into me when I stop for the lights and they chose not to my immediate response is not to chuckle and think anyone on two wheels is a friend. Cunts can be cunts whatever mode of transport they use.

I am as likely to call out a bad cyclists as a bad driver.

I'm so over it. Jump the fucking light, what do I care?

I tend to tut, then move on with my day. Sometimes I whine about it online.

I do care when they crash into me or anyone else.

If a cunt crashes into you, you respond. I never said 'now I am become a moonie'. I'm trying to say that all the 'ooh they done a bad thing' is often really not that bad.

bullseye. except for the 'everyone's a friend' hippy bullshit.

Is it time to stop calling out bad cyclists?

No.

everyone on two wheels is a friend

No.

Maybe you should just stop reading this thread.

Unlit cyclists on the road get my goat though. But perhaps that's "proper bad".

Do chuckle at Pavengers with a helmet and hi-vis vest.

Well, maybe you're right.

I just think lfgss is/should be too cool to whine about other riders. This is London my friend, wind your necks in and get on with having some fun.

Today I shouted at 30 riders at Waterloo Bridge lights to 'Cheer the fuck up you lot!'.

Ignoring minor infringements is one thing. But I watched a guy blast a red light on a pedestrian crossing to then immediately ride on the pavement for about 50 metres, for no reason at all - the road was clear (because we were sat at the lights)
I rode up to him at the next lights (who knows how he decides which lights to actually stop at) and called him out. He gave exactly zero fucks. He's no friend of mine.

I draw the line at fucking with pedestrians. Zebra, pelican, whatever the pedestrian crossing is - don't fuck with it.

I will continue to call out riders that cross that line.

Nodders LOL!

I was actually under the impression that this thread had become the alternative to calling out bad cyclists. Initially it was a discussion about whether the volume of cyclists now on the roads and the proportion of poor cyclists (i.e. ones that put you, them or some third party in danger) meant that it had become appropriate to try and educate those around you. It very quickly turned into a spotters guide to bad cycling with the only "calling out" being done here, which falls somewhere between preaching to the converted and pissing in the wind. I think this thread still has value, it can help clarify good and bad behaviour and it allows people to blow off a bit of steam, 'cos we've all felt that flush of righteous indignation when someone gets an advantage by cheating while we sit patient and honest. And it gives greenhell a chance to remind us that we do not have hegemony over all cyclists, that those who ride under 10mph have every right to do so, and that you are no more responsible for my twattish riding than I am for yours.

Still enjoy some of the stories on here tho, cos nodders, LOL!

Waiting at Waterloo bridge lights when some old steel-is-real hipster type freaktard told the queue to "Cheer up, might never happen" or summin. What a nodder twunt.

Waiting at Waterloo bridge lights

That's your problem.

Lols.

Oh Hai!

#FreakturdnProud

And cheer the fuck up.

Shouted, no no no NO! To a wobbly tern rider who pulled down the inside of a left indicating Addison lee cab, at the next set of lights he gave me a puzzled look to which I explained the danger he had been in. I suggested he look up free cycle training to help him live longer (kindly) and he was all kinds of grateful. I was very pleased that he took it that well, perhaps he could hear the fear in my shouts, or maybe he was just a kind and reasonable person with questionable risk assessment skills.

Anyway, I'll go ahead and suggest it again to wobblers who put my heart in my throat.

@Skülly better?

Fuck all that laugh at them instead bullshit, a call out might feel like nowt now but could save a life in the future.

Called out a cyclist who sailed past me as I'd stopped and pulled up inside of a Stobart at front of lights just now. "It's not indicating left" she said. Assume nothing I told her, that thing swings left = you're dead.

What made it worse is this was my Partner, Mum to our daughter, who I've discussed this with before and really should know better.

Has left me a lot more shaken up than I let on to her tbh. Will be sending her a link to the tfl lorry / cyclist stuff once I get into work.

/ncsb.

God, I got in a massive fight with an ex over something similar once - rasised my voice to her on the road when she was doing something a bit daft/dangerous, and she screamed at me for ordering her around. Took a while to diffuse it, me saying I was trying to stop her from being dead. Occasionally in these domestic arguments, being 'controlling' is a worse sin than death. Literally.