Is it time to start calling out bad cyclists?

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Anyone saying the risk-reward ratio of drafting a bus isn't good enough obviously hasn't done the arduous journey of She'bu to Hillingdon along the Uxbridge Road.

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I only started drafting buses when they put the "Cyclists stay back" stickers on them. Before that I'd just over or under take them, but now I have to do what the stickers tell me to do.

No, I said the risk/reward balance wasn't good enough for me. For other people the risk/reward balance for mountain biking, motor racing and off-piste skiing isn't good enough, and that's fine, because they don't have to do any of them. But to claim that there's a substantive difference between any of them and drafting buses just because they're 'life living activities' while drafting buses isn't seems to me nothing more than an attempt to impose your own subjective views on what is worthwhile on someone else's decision on how they live their life. I'm sure there are many people who think that motor racing and off-piste skiing is stupidly dangerous and shouldn't be done by anyone with half a brain. In fact, I know there are - I'm related to some of them. But ultimately it's my decision, not theirs. And while I wouldn't do it myself, I can't see why drafting buses is any different, objectively.

Drafting a derny is far more rewarding.

I saw a Clydesdale trotting along behind a bus the other day.

It was a draft horse

Is that the dude on a white bike, 2 full floodlights on the front, full black ninja winter outer clothes too? I see him on CS7 all the time, I think he's Traffic Droid's separated-at-birth twin.

Ok. Applying that logic then to riding up the left of an indicating lorry at a junction. Someone might find the thrill of doing that quite exciting, and therefore do it to get some kicks. It's said persons "my decision, not theirs". Does that mean its not ok for me to call said person out, because it's their decision, not mine?

Does that mean its not ok for me to call said person out, because it's their decision, not mine?

But the usual assumption is they're doing something dangerous because they don't know any better/haven't thought about it/are sleepwalking to their squishy doom.

That's very different to having made a conscious, informed decision, which admittedly seems pretty unlikely.

yeah that sounds about right... was tempted to bump into him slightly and SMDSY

This. People have the right to make decisions about their lives which other people consider to be stupid and reckless. Just as anyone else has the right to say that in their opinion such behaviour is stupid and reckless. But that's all it is - one person's opinion about someone else's decision. And God knows there are enough of them about.

When the helmet debate is slow we talk about drafting buses...

Hey, I wear a helmet. I'm not an idiot.

MWHID

You say that like there's something wrong with being an idiot.

Counterpoint - If you don't draft buses, you're a bad cyclist.

+1. It's like a professional cyclist riding outside of the peleton for risk of being knocked off.

I drafted a letter once.

I drafted my opinion for this debate, then I deleted it and thought I'd share this instead:

A boy owned a dog that was uncommonly shaggy. Many people remarked upon its considerable shagginess. When the boy learned that there are contests for shaggy dogs, he entered his dog. The dog won first prize for shagginess in both the local and the regional competitions. The boy entered the dog in ever-larger contests, until finally he entered it in the world championship for shaggy dogs. When the judges had inspected all of the competing dogs, they remarked about the boy's dog: "He's not that shaggy."

Huhuhuh, he entered his dog.

That's exactly the sort of crude, puerile and frankly childish humour that would've gotten you rep on the old forum.

Must acknowledge!

I actually miss rep.

Yeah, it was a nice way of sending a comment to someone on their post that was private.

I've had a couple of emails saying "I was going to rep/neg you for this but couldn't, so [etc]", which is interesting as they didn't use the PM system.

I guess it's easier to switch tabs, hit compose and fire an email off than it is to use the PM system - I've not used it yet to compose a message. I will try that now- rock'n'roll Saturday morning.

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As do many other people, as was predicted.

Seriously, this quoting nonsense has to be sorted out.