Could LFGSS still work with a "no asshole" rule?

Don't you already ban people being assholes?

who decides what being an arsehole is?
one man's arsehole is another man's funny guy.

I too would be interested in the mechanics of how that could work. The choices are between either a Big Brother style eviction or moderator intervention. BB style could appear to be a witch hunt and moderator intervention seems to sit at odds with your stated dislike of censorship and your "not a content provider" stance. Somewhere in between might be hard balance to strike.

Consensus voting may be an option, but perhaps complicated to implement.

David

as someone whose stock has risen and fallen here i think this is dangerous territory

there are a number of others who have done the same and if the rule were imposed it could lead to the elimination of some great people from here

if it just descends to rep wars then the system is fucked. humour is so subjective and a lot of the time that is the only thing that rep is used for

there can also be a hideous gang mentality here, so people could gang up and declare someone an arsehole, whereas they are the cunts themselves

at various points i could see that myself, lileth, lynx, pistinator etc could have been removed for falling foul of the popularity contest

the support lynx gave me the other day was invaluable, everyone has the potential to contribute

however at the end of the day the forum is David's

so i am not sure why myself or anyone else has any right to dictate how it is run

he may ask for our opinion but can perfectly ignore

what did james say?

i agree with what Arooogah has written.

Maybe...

If people stopped behaving like idiots (DJ especially) then nobody would have to be banned, David could go back to doing whatever it is he should be doing, Tynan could concentrate on being God and all the hungry Africans could eat a nice big dinner (served to them by naked Epifania clones).

Is it really that bad? I think it's good!

2 things:

i) We'd be better off implementing a 'no arsehole rule'.

ii) A lot of bullying/arsehole types are skilled manipulators and deceivers (often unconsciously/habitually) and people on the receiving end of their poison take a while (anywhere between hours and months, or even years) to realise they've been made to feel oppressed etc. Therefore the rule would be most effective against less subtle oppressors, which I suppose is a good place to start, although they're not the ones who cause the deepest wounds.

Piont 2 encapsulates all of my concerns. It's the thing that I think rots the community (note the really cool people who by and large don't participate any more because of a lot of that crap).

I really really do not want to go around banning people, and in fact I think it will be the downfall of the forum. Fair enough for spammers, trolls, etc... but we don't actually have rules against bullies and I'm not sure whether we want to or in what form they'd take.

What bothers me in DJ's post about everyone having the right to contribute, is that only those who can survive or aren't subject to the more subtle assholes are the ones that do. The right of the remainder is removed by the few assholes, and yet those assholes get to survive. That seems wrong. How to resolve it isn't clear, neither is whether the community at large wants to.

Is it really that bad? I think it's good!

+1 I don't really see anything that needs fixing, sure there's the odd idiot here and there but all in all the forum kind of manages itself.

you're an arsehole?

dave what are the viewing figures like here these days are we still growing ? are numbers dwindling ? can you get one of those threads with the stats in ?
would be nice to see how it is growing or if people are jumping ship ?
that might provide some decent facts for whether we need to omit more assholes or leave well alone ?

Please do something like this.
I can't continue having conversations with other cyclists (esp. female ones) about how over populated this forum is with cunt flaps.
It's not that I want to loose DJ and Pisti (sorry to make an example of both you, but since everyone else is I might as well), but this forum would be a better place for having the assholes on here chill the fuck out or be lanced like a saddle sore from Damo's ass.

+1

you're an arsehole?

Hadn't considered that. Fair shout... and now I've gone an fucked up the tread by deleting that post.

Nhatt: what has my bum got to do with this?

Just leave mine out of it please.

Nothing.... Yet.

tagged already.

own up.

"damo is the new cliveo"?

Hadn't considered that. Fair shout... and now I've gone an fucked up the tread by deleting that post.

actually that was meant at mick, i think we simulposted.
sorry balki.

This could be a toughie Velocio. I understand the need, but also the logisitics of moderating it.
Does the "Rep" thing not work - whereby you have the ability to report someone, and if you (or other very neutral moderators) deem that report to be false or in someway a form of bullying, then that person themselves could be penalised.
Maybe a yellow/red card system. Two strikes and you get sent to the Realm of Hades...

Clive, yours has been through enough already.