Functional bikes. Not Porn not Anti

I think my Salsa is approaching 15kg with racks, 12-14 sounds positively dreamy

By minimum i meant if you vaguely tried to go lightweight on parts, which you probably wouldnt for loaded touring

6kg includes the rack and forks. Another 6-8kg for drivetrain, wheels and some finishing kit is definitely manageable

Nice. I would've gone inline and push the saddle back a bit.

The one on the left right:

The one on the right looks pretty functional too. But also a bit like a Jan Heine fanboy.

The one on the right looks pretty functional too.

I meant that one.. Gotta stop sleep-LFGSSing.

I thought JH was into rim brakes?
The front panniers seem far too close to the ground ,
ripping those is very costly.

I think he is, but he also rides this.

I guess you learn not to lean to far with that kind of luggage.

And here's the picture of him cornering on that bike with those bags

And here's the picture of him cornering on that bike with those bags

Once again it shows you should never lean™.

Especially since, you know, bag hits ground, front wheel unweights, you go down like a ton of bricks. Same problem with long cranks/low BB on a fixie except this is at the front which is even worse.

Is Jan the Ken Rockwell of bikes?

Along with Sheldon Brown

It's not the high speed stuff that caught me out with panniers higher up.
Slow moving, navigating some street furniture, along a pavement,going around a stump or a rock etc, did put some scractches on my bags.

Don't ride on pavements then :)

So good

Rockhopper.

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Miss that cycle along the Tay. Nice pics.

Folding tandem!

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We had singles from bike Friday when they first came out - sent them back, flexy as f**k.

Does not surprise me and the problem is surely magnified on a tandem! Would love to have a crack at riding it for a laugh though

Yeah it was too bad - seemed to be nicely specced. I'm only only 150 lbs and I could make the chainring touch the derailleur when stomping.