Bad traders

I’ve just posted in the rant thread about how bad the classifieds on retrobike is so I definitely think we’re doing a better job than they are.

Seeing User123456789 is definitely a red flag but as much as it annoys me that some people are only here for the classifieds, it doesn’t exactly do anything to ruin my experience of using the forum.

Sticking an ad up on a public forum is like putting something on the table at a car boot sale.
You can't install and guarantee a sense of grassroots morality on a public internet marketplace in 2024.

This is bollocks. Any platform of users can and do police themselves, either through direct authority that controls that space or through the actions / reciprocality of the collective.

Seems the general mood is that anyone who picks stuff up at forum rates and then goes on to punt for profit elsewhere is out of step with the broader consensus of what we're actually all doing here.

Personally I don't understand anyone who would rather hear out profteering shits but are ready to try and explain away gripes from long time members who have sold stuff in good faith.

Seems the genral mood is that anyone who picks stuff up at forum rates and then goes on to punt for profit elsewhere is out of step with the broader consensus of what we're actually all doing here.

I think thats a separate issue to what I was discussing. Thats a little shitty.

But how do we lose out if a same thing is advertised 'on here' and on ebay/fb etc? That I dont understand.

There appears to be absolutely nothing stopping anyone from signing up and buying from the classifieds section on this forum.

If sellers are hellbent on their items going to active forum members for their sole use only they should state their terms in their initial post.

It's all good and well kicking off a hissyfit afterwards when something appears on eBay a week later but it's not exactly going to stop the supposed "problem".

I was delighted to sell my Bullit bike to a really nice chap through this forum, seemingly a good home it went to, which sure feels good, but not for a single moment would I give a single damn if he chose to flog it on for a profit next week. I asked for my price, item gone, me grateful, everyone wins. Especially when there's such an influx of incredible piss poor time wasters applying the "dibs" system - hell, if someone's going to come on a professional basis that day, be my guest.

Seems like a weird controlling authoritarian crabby attitude to insist somebody uses your unwanted belongings in a specific way after you've sold it. Move on. It's not yours anymore. Spend the money on something delightful like a trip to Belgium or a new crankset.

¯_(ツ)_/¯

The rules don't do much except clarify that I'm not responsible for anything that goes wrong, and just codifies the etiquette so that new people know how to conduct themselves.

https://www.lfgss.com/comments/6571303/

Perhaps we need to hold a folkmoot.
I still like the idea of putting classifieds selling access behind 99p paypal donation.

This is a whole lot of opinion for one post

Take it or leave it my friend.

I mean, you're doing a lot (actually heaps) to vindicate a behaviour that a lot of other members find problematic. Maybe try and reflect on that a little

Sure, that's one way to nullify my opinion.

You got any solutions to share with us now that you've got the moral high ground?

You can't install and guarantee a sense of grassroots morality on a public internet marketplace in 2024

Parklife!

Perhaps we need to hold a folkmoot.

Surely a 'Witan' of Pre 2010 members?

Try posting here https://www.lfgss.com/conversations/171676/

Sticking an ad up on a public forum is like putting something on the table at a car boot sale.

Don't you mean

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You sold your own bike at a great price and had a great experience, which is good, and happens a lot on the forum. There must be reasons (and not only financial ones) that you did that here and not eBay or marketplace etc. The ethos of fair deals and good spirit is what makes it a good place to sell too, it works both ways

Personally I don’t mind a few ‘hissy fits’ after something like the omnium thread, I think it shows people care. I also think the reactions to stuff like this actually is a part of how the forum self-polices and maintains that ethos within the classified section.

I can agree with those points.

Not that anyone asked for my opinion, but is this a case of 2014 lufguss versus 2024 lufguss? Not in terms of posters, but general attitude? Lots of us have moved out of London, done other things and there isn't QUITE the same sense of community? Maybe? I don't know.

(Obviously I'm not a prolific poster, mainly because of social anxiety, so probably not worth tarring all less frequent posters with the same brush - lfgss is genuinely one of my main go-tos online).

Not cool bro

I think that profiteering is generally out of step with something that is supposed to be serving the community. The broader community it serves is not limited to active and sociable users. I agree you can't dictate what happens with your stuff but I can understand why it pisses people off. Some people believe in community and some people are Maggie.

I've been a member here for a long time but not really posted much in the social bits, sometimes I use the classifieds and I buy stuff and I ride it to death. I'd like to be able to carry on using them, they are very useful and lets my very limited budget go a bit further.

is this a case of 2014 lufguss versus 2024 lufguss?

this place has gone seriously downhill since i stopped singlehandedly ruining it.

Only because you learned to type with two hands and doubled the decay rate.

I've been a member here for a long time but not really posted much in the social bits, sometimes I use the classifieds and I buy stuff and I ride it to death.

Your quadrant is not allowed on here!

https://brooker.co.za/blog/2023/04/20/hobbies.html

FFS.

/Clears desk