Road bike recommendations

The greens are suitable for ceramics.

Oh I didn't says they weren't, just the website isn't up front about it, which to be fair, ceramic rims are a thing of the past with disc brakes now becoming the better option.

That they do, even TRP point this out;

• Compound works well in dry conditions but may wear quickly in wet/muddy conditions
  

A plus to not have the option for upgrading the electronic in the future?

Think about how technology advanced, I guesstimate there'll be a wireless Di2 in the near future (as well as EPS).

But it is a fair point, though you mean mechanical shifting rather than electronic.

*to, not "the", yep.

Discs are not better than ceramics at the moment, for me anyway ;)

Hydraulic Discs are much better than ceramic rims and the ceramic pads

Yep, but also fiddly and time-consuming to service, expensive, and not wide-spread enough yet to be worth investing in. Ceramic pads cost £17 and take 5 mins to swap out, when they wear out. Disc frame set, disc wheels, brakes and levers etc = £££. IMO of course. Another year and maybe.

Ironically now that you mentioned this, I worn out my rotor quicker than my old ceramic rims (no surprise considering it take longer to go one rotation compared to disc).

Yep, but also fiddly and time-consuming to service, expensive, and not wide-spread enough yet to be worth investing in.

That is true 5 years ago.

Why blue instead of green?

Because they're better. And when riding in the Alps having good braking is nice.

Bleeding discs is less hassle and quicker than if you need to recable conventional brakes.

Disc brakes mean you can spend on fancy rims and not worry about them wearing out. Disc rotors much cheaper than new carbon rims.

Meaning fancy Zipp clinchers rim without the concern of the braking heating up the latex inner tube.

TBF it's easier recabling conventional brakes over bleeding road hydraulic, former required very little tool beside cable cutter and allen key.

And new bar tape...

Go tubeless over inner tubes anyway

And new bar tape...

Why? just pull cable out, lubricated housing, and put new one in.

Anyway back to ritchey, its the bizz, so comfy after years on a carbon cervelo that cracked, you can get pacenti rims and 28mm tyres on with still room. Take it anywhere you want, whats not to like.

Love it, the frame angles are just spot on and Toms head is still in the right place.

Incidentally got a Ritchey frame to swap from a Cervelo at work.

You have a Ritchey? Nice, any pics... and.... canihavego?

Good report; thanks. Was a bit thrown by the sizing: they list a 540mm (effective top tube) as Small, 560 as Medium. I also have an Equilibrium, which is 545mm in Medium. How big are you and what size did you get?

Compare stack and reach instead.

Equilibrium have a longer headtube in comparison

Yeah as Ed says, look at the stack and reach. I did and opted for the medium frame, which fits well. Just a bit more stretched out than the Equilibrium, which is what I was after. I'm a shade over 6ft and have the Equilibrium in 56.

Actually, it doesn't. Both bikes in approx 540mm ett have 145mm headtubes. Both have the same reach. Equilibrium does have about 20mm more stack like-for-like, which makes it feel more upright, right?

Equilibrium have lower bottom bracket, and longer fork, which is why the headtube measurement (as well as top tube) must be taken with a pinch of salt.

You already answered it; the Equilibrium is 20mm more upright.

The Zero is a race-fit, whether the Equilibrium is not (shorter and upright vs. long and low).

Great deals on Ultimate AL Di2 here: https://www.canyon.com/en/outlet/list.html#category=road-bikes

just inspected the 2015 Condor Fratello Disc and sat on the fitting jig to try the sizes....looks really nice in the flesh btw!

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Wtf is going on with the reach measurements on that Condor?! Surely some mistake?

*just seen they sized on TT length with disproportionate headtube increases which cancel out the reach