Road bike recommendations

Go all city, my mate has that exact bike in orange and it is beautiful to ride!

Out of curiously, what make the All City a better value than says a Genesis Croix de Fer?

Out of curiously, what make the All City a better value than says a Genesis Croix de Fer?

Don't think it does, guess just moar hipster points being from 'Murica

Out of curiously, what make the All City a better value than says a Genesis Croix de Fer?

Did you mean 'choice' rather than value Ed?

I like the Genesis CDF and it does have a nicer set of tubes on it. However... they only appear to make them for normal small people, so unfortunately they're not a brand that I can consider.

Cdf is SO 2013, All City is where it's at in 2014....until its 2015.....#futureproof

I wish people would stop obsessing over specc'ing the perfect bicycle, and just get on with riding a bike and slowly discovering their preferences, making subtle alterations as they go.

Furthermore, having found 'perfection', you then get the exciting realisation that as a concept it's ephemeral, as the organic nature of humans means that nothing is static.

I changed stem and crank length on a newish bike and the result was a hugely satisfying improvement in comfort and handling due to weight distribution and the facilitation of idiosyncratic pedalling biomechanics, but I'm comfortable with the knowledge that the improved set-up could be rendered inadequate by any number of real life developments. Whatever. There's time to consider it meaningfully in the saddle.

I'm sort of agreeing with EdZed.

This. Just buy a fucking bike, ride the crap out of it and sort it out as you go along.

But what if it's the wrong bike?

What if I don't want crap coming out of my bike?

But what if it's the wrong bike?

Bin it. Buy another.

Speaking my language aren't you Dan?

No. I understand Dan's posts without fail.

Must spread rep before...

9 times out of 10 it's the wrong rider, not the wrong bike. 7 of those 9 times it's Ed.

I am always the wrong rider

But what if it's the wrong bike?

All bikes are the wrong bike.

Why do you think n+1 is so prevalent?

None of them go fast enough!

Speaking my language aren't you Dan?

For the record - I never said anything about making the bikes look ugly, before binning them.

@Dom - I have been thinking about the 'Mr Pink' frameset for my next build as well. But I'm leaning towards the 'Space Horse' because I want more of tourer. Its also cheaper. I haven't actually seen either frame in the flesh. Triton has both in stock and has 10% off at the moment.

I like the Genesis CDF and it does have a nicer set of tubes on it. However... they only appear to make them for normal small people, so unfortunately they're not a brand that I can consider.

With a 575mm top-tube@73degree seat and 60 c-t its suitable for someone that's 188-193 cm tall--- well above the UK average height. Someone with dimensions like Michael Phelps, of course, won't fit but I can't imagine any series bicycle that he'd fit either....

Riddle me this then, 73 degree seat tube, 575mm top tube and 58cm c-t?

bin it. Buy a new one

With a 575mm top-tube@73degree seat and 60 c-t its suitable for someone that's 188-193 cm tall--- well above the UK average height. Someone with dimensions like Michael Phelps, of course, won't fit but I can't imagine any series bicycle that he'd fit either....

I'll just give up cycling and join the circus then.

With a 575mm top-tube@73degree seat and 60 c-t its suitable for someone that's 188-193 cm tall--- well above the UK average height. Someone with dimensions like Michael Phelps, of course, won't fit but I can't imagine any series bicycle that he'd fit either....

Yup almost all the UK brands are for tall people (coming from an average height Indian at 5'7.5") I am looking for a F+F for a long time for my misses who is 5'2" ... nothing! (not much that matches what she wants in the bike)

I'll just give up cycling and join the circus then.

If Phelps had too heads perhaps.. But "squat boxes" (guys with short legs and overly long torsos) are not terribly interesting to watch.. unless like Phelps they are swimming (his morphology is beneficial to swimming just as having long legs and an underbuilt short torso is advantageous to cycling) ...

Yup almost all the UK brands are for tall people (coming from an average height Indian at 5'7.5") I am looking for a F+F for a long time for my misses who is 5'2" ... nothing! (not much that matches what she wants in the bike)

157cm (5'2") is not too difficult to find a fit for.. A frame, however, with 650c wheels is probably a better choice than 700c. A number of companies do make them. Terry is perhaps the most well known.

5'7.5"? A lot of Italian cyclists have that height. Paolo Bettini comes to mind.

157cm (5'2") is not too difficult to find a fit for.. A frame, however, with 650c wheels is probably a better choice than 700c. A number of companies do make them. Terry is perhaps the most well known.

5'7.5"? A lot of Italian cyclists have that height. Paolo Bettini comes to mind.

Yes going with 650b OR 26" only reasons not going with 650c is very limited rim/tyre/tube choice.

Will be custom made steel mostly. Either TFG (zona) or Talbot (853)