Road bike recommendations

Of the 3 people I know who've used Hinde (for fixed and road wheelsets) they've all been pretty complementary about the quality of the builds.

I'd personally not have any reservations about using them. Paying with Paypal protects the buyer so well.

I paid with card :/

Fuck it. Fingers crossed

I paid with card :/

Credit card payment protection is as good as Paypal, only took about a month and one letter to my card issuer to force a refund out of Dave Hinde after they overcharged me.

Reputation is easily wrecked and hard to get back - they fucked me about once in 2002, and I've never gone back.

Fuck.

I feel bad for posting the link to Hinde now.

I hope your wheels are ok Dan.

I have a ti railed WTB saddle on the commuter, bought from DH's Ebay store. Except it isnt. The model name wasnt complete on the EBay listing. So I asked directly if it was the Ti team version. Won it cheaply, and chucked on the bike without really thinking about it. Then one I remembered it was supposed to be team version. It obviously is'nt.

I dont really give a shit that my saddle weighs a couple more grams. Its not like it cost much. But I dislike being directly lied to.

Feck'm

Generally agree, but white on a white bike? Too much imo. The saddle and stem will probably go.

The bars and stem are bloody nice. Dont be misled by the giant branding.

I'd be very tempted by red saddle and tape. I like coloured tape.

Nein!

Mmmm.. very keen to get those Ambrosio/Open Pro fixed wheelset.

Good thing I work in a bicycle shop, so I can get it trued properly if that turn out to be dodgy...

I cant recall reading about poor workmanship, to be fair to them.

Just pray you get what you ordered and don't have to return it or seek an exchange. Then you're fucked.

thanks guys

It'll be tougher than ultra lightweight alu.

^^ lol

I was actually thinking about it, then read the same ("lightweight aluminum isn't necessarily as strong as lightweight carbon fiber") in this article
http://www.competitivecyclist.com/review-lubricants/Tacx-Dynamic-Carbon-Assembly-Paste.388.html

I have ordered carbon anyway, but i'm just curious. Can lightweight alu be really that weak?

Can lightweight alu be really that weak?

If ultra lightweight means trying to get frame weight under 1kg then probably yes. Maybe compromising wall thickness a bit too much and the top tube would dent like a Coke Can (might be exaggerating)

De Rosa's UD frame, a sub 1 kg aluminium frame, was only guaranteed for one season of racing. The tubing was so thin in places it literally did deflect like a coke can.

I was actually thinking about it, then read the same ("lightweight aluminum isn't necessarily as strong as lightweight carbon fiber") in this article
http://www.competitivecyclist.com/review-lubricants/Tacx-Dynamic-Carbon-Assembly-Paste.388.html

I have ordered carbon anyway, but i'm just curious. Can lightweight alu be really that weak?

Carbon fiber composite is strong as feck.
Polymer chemistry terminology^

If you strike similar performance level frames in alu, steel, Ti, and carbon, hard, with a big hammer. The metal frames might dent, the carbon frame might crack. You may be able to keep using the metal frames, I guess. But I would'nt, I replace all of them.

So dont hit your bike with a hammer.

....or something.

De Rosa's UD frame, a sub 1 kg aluminium frame, was only guaranteed for one season of racing. The tubing was so thin in places it literally did deflect like a coke can.

Deda did some similar ones. Would'nt put me off riding it. Might put me off paying a lot though.

I knew that sub 1kg alu frame is too good to be true

Deda U2 frames had to have structural foam injected into the tubes around the BB junction to prevent tube buckling. Sound engineering, but an illustration of just how far you have to push it to get aluminium frames under 1000g.

Ribble do some can-thin race frames too. Amazingly light but fairly disposable from what I'm told.

It amazes me people still equate carbon fibre with fragile.

niner forks video etc

Deda did some similar ones. Would'nt put me off riding it. Might put me off paying a lot though.

Actually I think the racy Ribbles were built by Deda.

Dave Hinde just shipped my wheels, 2 days not a bad turnaround for wheelbuild in 'winter wheels' season - should be here tomorrow on Friday. We shall see how they turn out

Fingers crossed

cheers :)

Ribble do some can-thin race frames too. Amazingly light but fairly disposable from what I'm told.

It amazes me people still equate carbon fibre with fragile.

niner forks video etc

I'm 85Kg, and ride my carbon 29er forks down concrete steps, off big rocks, and over rock gardens at speed.

#notdeadyet

Actually I think the racy Ribbles were built by Deda.

At the very least the tubesets are. From what I've heard, the longevity of those framesets is at least better than that of the fillings of the rider.

Now I want to jab the tubes on my ribble 7005 race frame and see if it does the coke can thing.