Road bike recommendations

Carbon bikes are plenty strong. I know you see lots of broken bikes in online photos but I don't know a single person that has broken one.

It'll be tougher than ultra lightweight alu.

^^ lol

7.35kg for alu and 7.2kg carbon, not much difference really

Listed complete bike weights are usually way off.

i'm just really afraid of damaging carbon, never had carbon bike before and maybe that's why i'm stressing myself

Its no easier to damage than anything else, built with a careful eye on the scales.

It'll be tougher than ultra lightweight alu.

I would'nt decribe the Canyon Alu as ultra lightweight alu. Gone are the days of the ridiculous alu framessets.

The carbon will be a little bit better, for alot more money. Simples

If you can afford it. get the better bike, not the better buy.

no-one yet mentioned that Canyons are notoriously 'firm' (made for Germany, where they have proper roads) - the Alu Canyons are pretty unforgiving / harsh by all accounts.

THIS is the reason to buy carbon, the weight difference is negligible, but the comfort difference after 100+ miles won't be

^ this. If you can't get a test ride, see it as a risk reduction strategy.

My Alu CAAD10 is unbelievably unforgiving. Every pothole I hit feels like I am either going to take off or collapse underneath the bike :$ A real bone shaker. Fast though :)

Roadbikes = unforgiving. Some less unforgiving than others.

Get a carbon seatpost :)

no-one yet mentioned that Canyons are notoriously 'firm' (made for Germany, where they have proper roads) - the Alu Canyons are pretty unforgiving / harsh by all accounts.

THIS is the reason to buy carbon, the weight difference is negligible, but the comfort difference after 100+ miles won't be

Orly?

:)

I'd guess the carbon will be slightly more forgiving, when ridden over long distances. Its not a difference you'd expect to imediatly feel with a quality alu frame, up against a stiff carbon one though.

My thinking was that German carbon has always been known for its rigid ride. So the difference would be less, than perhaps expected.

Get a carbon seatpost :)

...and a 25mm rear tyre. Lowers your recommended PSI by up to 20, from a 23mm.

Get a carbon seatpost :)

the alu version comes with carbon fork and seatpost
you can't really get a better spec'd bike for that money
(even ribble or rose)
the only downside is that is super ugly, but i can live with that:)

Canyon have been bigging up their basalt VCLS seatpost and getting good reviews for it too; don't know what frames it is standard on though. The basalt fibres are much more elastic than carbon which seems to smooth things out.

Orly?

My thinking was that German carbon has always been known for its rigid ride. So the difference would be less, than perhaps expected.

I specifically meant Canyon - either way, even if the Carbon is stiff, it won't be AS stiff.. and it will eliminate loads more roadbuzz and all that jazz

I specifically meant Canyon - either way, even if the Carbon is stiff, it won't be AS stiff.. and it will eliminate loads more roadbuzz and all that jazz

All the German brands are/where known for it. Interestingly Canyon have been praised for the amount of comfort they've tuned into their alu offerings. Still, you're right.

I personally think that bike-fit is more important than these small differences in frame compliance. If your body weight is well distributed on the bike, you'll be a lot more comfortable over distance.

It'll be tougher than ultra lightweight alu.

^^ lol

I've seen just as many dented Caad downtubes as dented carbon bits.

^ all this is scaremongering though. They're all built pretty strong.

just noticed this tag "just buy a fekkin bike!" ha!
so i ordered mine...

...and a 25mm rear tyre. Lowers your recommended PSI by up to 20, from a 23mm.

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or even 28c tyres, our road are barely suitable for skinny narrow tyres, especially in London generally.

I rode with a lightweight 30c tyres from Grand Bois (80psi), amazingly comfortable and fast on a 50 miles ride.

very very thin thought.

slow riding thread >>>>>

weight make the tyres feel slow, not size.

so chevrons for you

That's a classic half-truth Ed.

Aerodynamics matter more the faster you go. 23mm is better for going faster.

Aerodynamics matter more the faster you go. 23mm is better for going faster.

to a certain point, road surface play a huge roles as well, a poor surface mean you'll likely to struggle with the amount of vibration from the road.

Stop moaning about comfort. Feel the road buzz and know you're alive.

to a certain point, road surface play a huge roles as well, a poor surface mean you'll likely to struggle with the amount of vibration from the road.

Struggle to put down power?

Or struggle because your glasses are bouncing around and things are falling out of your jean pockets?

(your in Road Bike Recommendations remember)

:)

just 'cos you've pampered your sensitive little self with ladies saddles, grandad handlbars and balloon tyres Ed doesn't mean that others can't tolerate a little road surface roughness.

I did Paris Roubaix on 25's FFS, I don't think the OP needs to start worrying about 28's for London roads

You tell 'im gaffer!

Just stuck Vittoria Evo Pave's on road bike for the winter - 24's feel like a sofa after 23's!