Science Squabbling

I had the weirdest dream last night, it was about a sheep with the face of Han Solo and the body of R2D2 running down the edge of a katana.

why gruniad why, why did you lie to me

^ This is how Corny feels by Monday afternoon every week...

Oh I see, NH doesn't know what the turing test is. At ease.

Transcripts of the conversations from the latest Royal Society test are not yet available but below are transcripts from a previous event at Bletchley Park on 23rd June 2012, with the same program. Can you tell Eugene isn't human?

Test 1

[12:43:37] Judge: Hi, I'm Cathy.

[12:43:43] Eugene: Cathy! Nice to meet you! You're a woman, if I'm not mistaken.

[12:44:20] Judge: Right. What is your name?

[12:44:29] Eugene: People call me Eugene. Or "Zhenya". It is a short name for Eugene in Russia and Ukraine.

[12:45:17] Judge: NIce name. Are you from either area?

[12:45:41] Eugene: Agree :-) Oh, what a fruitful conversation;-)

[12:45:52] Judge: Do you really think so?

[12:46:04] Eugene: No, your guess was wrong. I don't think so. By the way, I still don't know your specialty - or, possibly, I've missed it?

[12:46:56] Judge: What speciality? What's yours?

[12:47:01] Eugene: Huh? And I forgot to ask you where you are from.

[12:47:51] Judge: The universe and you?

[12:48:01] Eugene: Is it your hobby to ask little poor Jewish boys such tricky questions they don't have an answer for?

Test 2

[16:11:25] Judge: what music do you like?

[16:11:32] Eugene: I like Eminem – because he doesn't have a thing to do with "polite correctness".

[16:11:46] Judge: OMG i love eminem, he's my favourite artist!

[16:12:00] Eugene: I wonder what Eminem's nick mean. I associate it only with a word "enema". But he is a cool guy, I like his The Real Slim Shady.

[16:12:55] Judge: i know what his nickname means, his real name is Marshall Mathers. From the initials M&M phynetically sounding like Eminem.

[16:13:06] Eugene: Eminem is a famous crapper. No, raper… ripper… Yeah, I mean – rapper. I like his Stan and The Real Slim Shady.

[16:13:32] Judge: I like Hailies Song.

[16:13:46] Eugene: Interesting tastes. I like science-fiction books, by the way. Where do you came from, by the way? Could you tell me about the place where you live?

[16:14:22] Judge: Epsom, home of the derby. yourself?

[16:14:27] Eugene: My guinea pig says that name Derby sounds very nice.

[16:14:41] Judge: i should talk with him sometime.

[16:14:48] Eugene: I think you should take some typing lessons. Or just type more accurately.

[16:15:04] Judge: That's very rude.

[16:15:09] Eugene: Ummm … Frankly, I didn't get your question :-(

[16:15:49] Judge: "Ummm" isnt a word. i think you need typing lessons

[16:15:58] Eugene: My thoughts are same. By the way, I still don't know your specialty - or, possibly, I've missed it?

Test 3

[16:06:31] Judge: Hi there, do you prefer to wear a dress or trousers to work?

[16:06:37] Eugene: I am a scholar. I'm too young to make money.

[16:07:32] Judge: What was the last film you saw at the cinema?

[16:07:38] Eugene: Huh? Could you tell me what are you? I mean your profession.

[16:08:11] Judge: I am an IT manager, and you?

[16:08:16] Eugene: Manager? So how is it to work as manager?

[16:09:13] Judge: Hard work but rewarding, what do you do?

[16:09:18] Eugene: I am only 13, so I'm attending school so far.

[16:09:51] Judge: Have you seen teletubbies?

[16:10:04] Eugene: No, I haven't seen it, unfortunately. But I hope it is better than these crappy Star Wars. And I forgot to ask you where you are from …

[16:10:15] Judge: Brighton, and you?

Test 4

[14:59:33] Judge: Hello, what is the weather like tomorrow?

[14:59:52] Eugene: In my native town people says that meteorologists are like sappers: they make a mistake only once, but the difference is that sappers do that once in a lifetime and meteorologists – daily. Do you like weather today?

[15:00:13] Judge: Why do birds suddenly appear?

[15:00:24] Eugene: Just because 2 plus 2 is 5! By the way, what's your occupation? I mean – could you tell me about your work?

[15:00:38] Judge: Yes, I am a doctor. Are you healthy?

[15:00:46] Eugene: Well, so tell me about your work. I think – doctor is a nice specialty!

[15:01:18] Judge: It is ok, I get sick of sick people. How is your stomach feeling today? Is it upset maybe?

[15:01:26] Eugene: I think you can't smile at all. I bet you work in a funeral agency.

[15:01:36] Judge: What do you work as?

[15:01:41] Eugene: I am a scholar. I'm too young to make money.

[15:01:56] Judge: I see, what school do you go to?

[15:02:07] Eugene: I attend an ordinary school in Odessa, my native city. Its number is 28k, if it makes any difference to you.

[15:02:24] Judge: it doesn't. What is your favourite subject?

[15:02:35] Eugene: It's hard to decide. Where do you came from, by the way? Could you tell me about the place where you live?

[15:02:56] Judge: I come from Manchester. Did you see the jubilee?

[15:03:02] Eugene: Could you invite me to Manchester? I would be so grateful. :-)

[15:03:17] Judge: Did you see the jubliee?

[15:03:27] Eugene: Try to guess! Actually, I don't understand why you are interested. I know you are supposed to trick me.

[15:03:35] Judge: Not really

[15:03:40] Eugene: Not really? Why? What are any interesting site-seeings in Manchester?

[15:03:59] Judge: Lots of nice things. Do you like football?

[15:04:04] Eugene: Does anyone hate it? Some another topic?

[15:04:18] Judge: Will you be watching the football on Sunday?

[15:04:23] Eugene: I play sports sometimes. On computer. But I prefer racing.

Test 5

[15:46:05] Judge: My favourite music is contemporary Jazz, what do you prefer?

[15:46:14] Eugene: To be short I'll only say that I HATE Britnie [sic] Spears. All other music is OK compared to her.

[15:47:06] Judge: do you like to play any musical instruments

[15:47:23] Eugene: I'm tone deaf, but my guinea pig likes to squeal Beethoven's Ode to Joy every morning. I suspect our neighbors want to cut his throat … Could you tell me about your job, by the way?

[15:48:02] Judge: Guinea pig? Are you an animal lover

[15:48:08] Eugene: Yeah. A nice little guinea pig. Not some annoying chatter bot.

[15:48:50] Judge: Do you live with anyone else?

[15:48:59] Eugene: Yes I do. But better ask something else. And I forgot to ask you where you are from …

[15:49:39] Judge: Ireland. Geen pastures and too much rain! How about you?

Hmm... 5/10...

nh was right
drat

what fucknut of a judge was fooled by that

I think I know that kid.

Blond, quite short for his age, likes Eminem? From Odessa. What was his name? Ah, little Eugene.

That was from 2012.

Oh I see, NH doesn't know what the turing test is. At ease.

Please enlighten me.

Did it pass the test or not? You claim not, they claim otherwise. Go..

yes*

*no

Maybe.

That was from 2012.

Yup, says so at the top of the post... Very interested to see the new results...

Please enlighten me.

A computer program passes the Turing test if 30 percent of judges are fooled into believing that the other entity in a text conversation, with that program, is a human being.

So, yes, it passed the Turing test. Apologies if the definition is a bit rusty it is nearly fifteen years sine I wrote an essay about it in one of the final papers of my CompSci degree.

BTW, if that last bit brings Torpid Construct out of the woodwork I will be most annoyed.

That was tynan...

30% is a bit of a low threshold.

I would really love to see the transcripts

http://www.telegraph.co.uk/technology/news/10886389/Computer-passes-the-Turing-Test-Im-not-convinced.html

sparky doesn't really exist, he's an AI created by skynet to try and shift attention away from it's rise to power by downplaying the advent of true AI and pretending it hasn't already happened.

30% is a bit of a low threshold.

Your objection may have carried more weight if you had voiced at almost any other time than today.

This thread needs more Jeez....

all threads needs more jeez....

ftfy

More cheese?

Yes please

A computer program passes the Turing test if 30 percent of judges are fooled into believing that the other entity in a text conversation, with that program, is a human being.

So, yes, it passed the Turing test. Apologies if the definition is a bit rusty it is nearly fifteen years sine I wrote an essay about it in one of the final papers of my CompSci degree.

BTW, if that last bit brings Torpid Construct out of the woodwork I will be most annoyed.

I just think it was cheating by using the idea that someone who is 13 years old and not a native english speaker to mask signs of "chatbot-ish" behaviour in the programme. I'm not disputing your definition of the test, and I agree it has passed the test, but at the same time I disagree based on how it passed the test.