Can you help to identify these frames, bikes or parts?

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  • if the headset works, then leave it be

    any campag double from the nineties will match in, as rvl indicates, a higher end one might match better

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  • ...looks like a dave marsh?! ;)

  • Awesome detective skills.

    I would add to that that it appears to be Reynolds 531/531c tubing.

    The clue is the Reynolds badge.

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  • Lots of different manufacturers used Cinelli bottom bracket shells

  • Did Cinelli make frames for Dave Marsh?

    Cinelli made bottom bracket shells, which were used by many top framebuilders.

  • ^ repost.

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  • don't know about le tubes but, yes [depending on what you mean by 'restoring'] and yes

  • The cinelli logo will probably be on the lugs rather than the frame tubing itself - they made lugs. When you say worth restoring, what do you mean? From the photos, you already have yourself a very competent road bike. Frame looks very well put together, 531c is a great tubeset. You could go down the period correct route and source all 90's stuff, or you could build it into a modern machine with shifting from the handlebars. Here's my old steel frame with a 2008 10 speed group, really nice to ride:

  • From the look of the frame and components you can see in those photographs, it already looks like it's in really good condition for its age. Definitely worth buying and riding, and giving it any of the small tweaks it might need.

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  • Any ideas on who may have built this frame? All I know is the frame is lugged using Mervex luggs and the dropouts are Binelli. The dropouts also have GP Design written on them.

    Under the BB there is stated 122556 above this the number 590306222E66 the the name Nervex.

    What do they all mean, and id like to know what year it was produced and by whom?

    Thanks in advence.

  • Thanks again for everyones help,the paint is pretty scratched so I fancied having it stripped and painted

    this is an old debate, but for my money the paint looks OK, and you only have the original paint once. I think that you should keep it as is to preserve its history, and Dave Marsh decals might be hard to find...

  • Any ideas on who may have built this frame? All I know is the frame is lugged using Mervex luggs and the dropouts are Binelli. The dropouts also have GP Design written on them.

    Can you post a pic of the dropout? Nervex lugs were common on top tier models through the 50's and 60's. What threads has it got? If they're French then it could be a Peugeot (although the seat cluster looks wrong). It looks like it has been resprayed at some point in its life.

  • yeah - I'm thinking Peugeot PX-10 Tom Simpson Style

    Here's another one with very similar lug details to the above
    http://www.flickr.com/photos/stronglight/2965331319/

    More infos here http://cyclespeugeot.com/PX10ID.html

    Unfotunately the serial #'s are meaningless... according to this page
    "The number of digits* may *indicate the decade of production with 5 digits representing a 50's model, 6 for a 60's model and 7 for a 70's model but this has been proven to be false many times!!!"

    On that basis the best bet I can offer on the basis of your above photos is that it's a PX-series peugeot from the 60's - very nice bikes, very desireable too.

  • One of the all-time classic jerseys to match as well:

  • It's not a PX-10: fork crown and top-eyes are wrong.
    Could be anything from 60's / 70's.

  • fair point gaz - Wrapover stays ≠ px-10 now you mention it!

    take 2 - motobecane grand jubilee - I've seen some of those with wrapover stays and also with the PX-10ish headtube lugs....

    Gaz is also right that it could be one of many other people too...
    There's an entry on Velospace forum that reads
    "The larger UK builders used Nervex Pro headtube lugs (Raleigh, Carlton, Holdsworth, Bob Jackson, Jack Taylor et al.)
    The normal fashion for smaller English framebuilders in that period (say, 1955-1980) was to use handcut lugs.
    Nervex's are more common with French and french-influenced builders (like the Belgians and the Swiss), both big and small. Peugeot's PX-10 and Motobecane's Grand Jubilee had them i- most of the better-known builders had a model with Nervex Pro near the top of their lineup
    In the late '60s/early '70s, Schwinn used Nervex Pro lugs on the Paramount, their top-end road frameset.
    Many frames with Nervex Pro head and seatlugs do not have the matching BB shell, and they often have different fork crowns. The early '70s Raleigh International has Nervex head/seatlugs/BB shell, but has a simpler-looking Vagner fork crown

    Hope this helps - and if you want more info on Nervex Pro lugs you can do a lot worse than reading this
    http://www.classiclightweights.co.uk/components/nervex.html

  • Fake or not ?





  • I saw this road bike with a "shimano super aero" head badge and is apparently Tange 900 tuning and I have absolutely no idea what it is! Shimano Biopace chainrings and "exage sport" groupset. Any clues at all or any tips for identifying mystery frames? Never really had to do it before.

  • Did Cinelli make frames for Dave Marsh?

    No Marsh probably used Cinelli bottom bracket shells. Lugs & BBs are pretty mix-n-match.

  • I saw this road bike with a "shimano super aero" head badge and is apparently Tange 900 tuning and I have absolutely no idea what it is! Shimano Biopace chainrings and "exage sport" groupset. Any clues at all or any tips for identifying mystery frames? Never really had to do it before.

    Not sure about the shimano badge - I don't think Shimano made their own bikes, though I've seen plenty of old frames with Shimano stickers, although it may have been a demo bike or something.
    Tange 900 is a reasonable clue though - Lugged Tange road frames were not common among European builders and usually indicate Japanese or New World manufacturers e.g. Koga Miyata, Centurion, Shogun, Nishiki, Schwinn, Trek, Ricardo - The kind of bikes we didn't see here in the UK until the MTB boom

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