Can you help to identify these frames, bikes or parts?

Ain't that always the way?

Browsing Hilary Stone's site, I saw this Simoncini:
"SIMONCINI AERO ROAD FRAME

    Seat Tube (ctc): 59cm (23.5in)
    Top Tube (ctc): 58cm (23in)
    Rear dropout width: 126mm 
    Wheel size:  700C/sprints with brake drop of 45mm
    Seatpost size: 26.8mm
    Frame tubing: Oria ML25
    This Italian built Simoncini aero road frame is built from Oria  ML25 tubing which has been reshaped into aero profiles on the seat and  down tubes. I think it dates from the later 1980s. The paint is  generally very good with just a few small areas that could do with being  touched up. £145"

The only differences with mine, that I can see, are that it takes a 26.8mm seatpost (mine is 27.2mm) and it has lugged forks. It's even the same size!

Does anyone know if Simoncini were in the habit of building frames for others?

If nothing else it, and the blurb for the Jan Janssen listed below it, confirms that during the late Eighties/early Nineties, reshaping tubes into an aero profile wasn't so uncommon.

I'm tempted to buy it, just to be able to compare the two...

ive just picked up this mystery bike, it has routed brake cables with the finished braze on bits where the cables go in and out the top tube, 26.8 seat post, under the paint the rear triangle and forks are chrome - the rest is red, campagnolo brakes and BB, braze on front derailleur..

cant find any writing or numbers but there are some remains of a decal as shown in the last pic.

any ideas?

What do people know about LUDO frames?

I’ve just brought one on here and it’s coming from the Netherlands.

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Looks rather like an Alu Team to me, but what does the small lettering on the top tube say (It's too small for me to read). If it is an Alu Team, the forks look to be maybe a later addition, the originals had steel forks like those from the Columbus Max frames.

I think its a Elite Piste (as the original poster suggested). The Alu team were, to my knowledge, road frames. The welds on the frame is the picture seem a bit less smooth than they often were but it could just be the color/livery and illumination drawing them out.
The fork? The standard fork delivered with the Elite Piste was a carbon fork. The (spectacular) track MAX fork was an (expensive) option.
These, I think, were really the last great Merckx track frames (especially with the MAX fork which is one of my heafy favorites)..

Here is a picture I found of Marcel Barth riding one (with the above livery):

(carbon and not steel fork)

seatpost, 25mm diameter, about 400mm in length. i've not photo'd the bit that clamps the seat rail.
about 135gms light and titanium

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Looks like a USE.
here's one with a blue anodised clamp.
http://lustyd.co.uk/content/gallery/kilauea/IMG_4854.JPG

Looks like a USE.
here's one with a blue anodised clamp.
http://lustyd.co.uk/content/gallery/kilauea/IMG_4854.JPG

thank you

Anybody got any idea about Geoffrey Butler bb stamps? Got a nice frame with Geoffrey butler decals and the bottom bracket is stamped LB and -7. According to the stickers the tubing is 531 st. Has full touring mounts as expected.
Lugs are extremely similar to this bike:
http://www.lfgss.com/thread33976.html

But with concave bits where the seat stays join the top tube, like this:
http://farm8.staticflickr.com/7243/7233284120_9e86f85dc3_z.jpg
Frame looks in pristine condition, stove enamelled with no chips at all just very slight cable rub on one patch.

I don't doubt it's a Geoffrey Butler, but the bloke who sold it to me said it might have been built by Cliff Shrubb. The guy seemed nice and used to race with one of the Swinnertons, very interested to see if he was right about Cliff Shrubb.

Actually it's got the same lugs as my king of mercia.

Anyone any idea what this is?
Cost next to nothing and the paint job is fucked, but I wouldn't mind doing it up, sticking a head badge on it.
Fork weighs 721g, frame 2119g. Campag drop-outs have holes for adjuster screws. No cut-outs on the lugging. Built for 27" wheels.

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Hi,

Those cutouts seem exactly the same. Sadly the kit on my bike isn't that nice, the brakes seem too be in bad shape (universal 68) and the shimano 105 derailleur is a little ugly. I'm considering buying some old dura ace brakes, new tires and handlebar and converting to a Single Speed.

Thanks for all the input BTW.

Max

Max...check out seventies raliegh frames from about 72 to about 80...they made frames with excatly the same lugs with campag dropouts...they sometimes stamped the seat collar and the seat posts were 26.4...
The name escapes me at the mo...they were 531 with forks to...tho maybe not the seat/chain stays...light metallic green with box lining on the tubes...

I built up one about 18 months ago...I'm damned if I can remember the name...like a royale? or regal? I know they did a royale tho I don't know if thats the frame I mean...

Tho i'm sure from the lugs it's one of those...the other lugs are to well finished...your lugs are generic ie factory......the others posted have been hand finished...

It's not a Gazelle tho...and def not AA...AA was top of the range race frame...on those you get wet...you don't have eyelets...

tho where are you? whatever it is it's quite old...that it doesn't have any braze ons...means it's pre seventies...if it's all clips then thats dating it...which takes it outof the realm of my raliegh punt...

tho it's a pretty frame...you need to look for mass produced I think...the lugs aren't hand finished, any artisan builder would have filed the lugs a lot finer...

The pista can only take 1 chainring whilst the road will take 2.

Pretty sure the only difference is the presence of a shoulder on the backside of a strada that helps you centre the inner chainring - the pista is just flat, and possibly a tad thicker.

Depends what period you're talking about, but AFAIK they can be ID by what's on the back of the crank arm.

Super Record era actually said "pista" along with the arm length and date code.

Corsa Record had a "P" between the arm length and date code.

Not sure about +1995.

^ pics?

Oh right, they date from 2000 or later and I am wholly ignorant of this period, unlike earlier Campag about which I know just enough to be dangerous.

However looking at the 2000 catalogue, the strada cranks still have the hidden fifth spider arm where as pista (as above) show all five.

So if yours say Record, but the fifth arm isn't behind the crank then it's pista.

Probably a stupid question, but here goes. I have a set of cranks that came with a bike - the ad said "Campagnolo Record Pista". They are clearly Record, and they look like Pista based on google image searches... but how can I be 100% sure? How do Pista differ from road?

With modern (C-Record to current) Campa cranks its easy. Look at the spider around the crank arms. The Pista have 5 distinct arms while the Record strada (C-Record to current) has the 5th arm integrated into the crank arms. The dimensions of the arms are also different. Modern Campa road chainrings are 135mm while track take 144mm OD .

Where it is difficult is pre C-Record as they took at times the same nominal chainring size.


So i've bought this NOS Unicanitor:

I'm not sure this is the 'Unica Nitor' saddle, that Cinelli marketed later on under the Cinelli brand as Cinelli Unicanitor? There is no Cinelli stamp on the backside:

I've also seen these saddle but then written 'Nitor' on each side, and i presumed these were the 'pre-cinelli' unicanitors. Anybody got some more info on this?

Hi I've recently acquired a frame from a friend who thought it was an Aende, but looking at the linked below thread I'm intrigued to think it's a Mercian?

NOTE: I can't see a number on the BB shell.

http://www.lfgss.com/thread55711.html

Here are the pictures, if anybody can conform what it is, I'd appreciate it very much.

Is it a Mercian Strada Speciale?

Anyone know where I can get one of those solid shimano track chainrings?

Never mind, it's called the Olympic Zen and they're rare as hens teeth.

Anyone know where I can get one of those solid shimano track chainrings?

Direct from Nippon (200 guinea 1/8")
Alex say "This products are only available for those of whom participated UCI World Championships or Olympic games."

I know that's not true, tracks supermarket used to stock them and I've seen them on many hipster sleds.