Can you help to identify these frames, bikes or parts?

Actually there are certain part that are still very good to this day, a good example would be the light TA 50.4BCD crankset, the Simplex Super LJ, the Mafac Racer brake etc.

While a lots of old component are already crap by today standard (2010 Centaur groupset is much easier, lighter and better than 1989 Chorus), there are other aspect that still stand the test of time and always been reliable, such as the part i've mentioned.

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More pics:
http://farm6.static.flickr.com/5290/5361455767_dbfac2808a_b.jpg
http://farm6.static.flickr.com/5048/5364151864_c6804db6b4_b.jpg

If anybody know what model this is I'd be happy to know.
from limited research i thought it could be a Pinarello 'prince pista' from 2000.
My reasoning behind thinking it's a 'prince pista' is it looks almost identical to the road frame version. (http://static.lfgss.com/attachments/14671d1252270792-pinarello-prince-1.jpg.)
If this is the case confirmation would be most welcome.

^I like those.. Some guy had a bunch of 'm for sale on ebay some time ago (mid December?).. Wanted one, couldn't because he wouldn't ship abroad (Netherlands for christ sake), to late contacting friend on here, frame of my size gone.. It was a very sad day..

#useless comment..

I do concur with you guessing it's a Prince Pista, they look pretty alike..

^ looks like an opera to me ,last model to be made in the factory

Thanks guys, I'll start looking in to the opera frames too. I guess when i get the frame i could try contacting pinarello with the serial number.

Rodolfo I hate that, when you've been waiting for a specific item whether it be in a certain size or colour and postage isn't offered. After contacting so many ebay sellers about international postage i've now given up as i've found most can't be bothered. If it is coming from abroad (mainly america i've found) then you may have to pay financially at customs for your hard work in obtaining such a specific/rare item.

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Could anyone tell me what the frame number BW18785 might tell about my frame?

It seems to be a custom made track frame with Columbus tubing and bilaminate lugs at the seattube/seatstay joint, original owner was a track rider in Manchester so it might come from that area.

Do the last two digits mean it was built in '85? (this would fit)

cheers
jetski

any guesses on the frame?

had a larger than standard steerer thread and the headtube was too big diameter for standard headset too (i had to shim ) french thread? who knows - i overwrote it with english thread

• but has english BB -
  
  

the front lugs are pretty distinctive (i've seen them on another bike - but can't remember what )- and check the seat tube to lug - tapered -

seat post is about 26.2 i think - it's pretty thin anyway

any clues?

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what looks like a 50's track frame from the nervex lugs, anyone any idea of builder?

doesent looks like any of the usual suspects, lugs are nicely feathered. was rattlecanned before I got it.

Number six, I am loving the stem.

@ brickman - nice frame looks to be in the Italian style - with the 'fast back' shot in stays plus the 'cinelli' crown

i really like the fast back if it's lugged in (it's also found on tons of cheap welded bikes now)

thanks ed

custom made by some famous small -scale builder (whose name i forgot as soon as i was told it ) - internally lugged and fillet brazed i think - 140mm - 90s mtb stuff i'm sure

1 quid from a bike jumble - took this to the track recently (with 90mm stem ) and i was way too far back (me with my tourer style set up - couldn't get the power down )- might have gone too far the other way - we'll see as soon as i get another chance to ride it.

Number6: managed some proper shots this eve but were in raw format so can't just throw them up, whoops. With the rear stays iss there a structural reason why (road) frame builders don't always use shot in stays? To me they make more sense than the more popular type where each stay affixs to the side of the seat collar.

The secret hipster in me wants flat bars, fixed and stealth, would that be sacrilege?

Thanks guys, I'll start looking in to the opera frames too. I guess when i get the frame i could try contacting pinarello with the serial number.

Rodolfo I hate that, when you've been waiting for a specific item whether it be in a certain size or colour and postage isn't offered. After contacting so many ebay sellers about international postage i've now given up as i've found most can't be bothered. If it is coming from abroad (mainly america i've found) then you may have to pay financially at customs for your hard work in obtaining such a specific/rare item.

It was actually a bit worse then that: I noticed he had sold several and contacted him to ask if he would receive some others again, particularly in my size.. Seller replies he'll be having a batch coming in again, he would check, and yes, hurray, my size is among them.. I thank him and mention it would need to be posted to the Netherlands.. Seller doesn't reply.. He just listed it, I can't "buy it now".. Contact him again.. No reply.. Again.. No reply.. Sold.. Fuck.. Dickhead doesn't care and didn't reply EVAH.. Bad karma!

It was actually a bit worse then that: I noticed he had sold several and contacted him to ask if he would receive some others again, particularly in my size.. Seller replies he'll be having a batch coming in again, he would check, and yes, hurray, my size is among them.. I thank him and mention it would need to be posted to the Netherlands.. Seller doesn't reply.. He just listed it, I can't "buy it now".. Contact him again.. No reply.. Again.. No reply.. Sold.. Fuck.. Dickhead doesn't care and didn't reply EVAH.. Bad karma!

lots of Chinese pinarrello copies on the net be careful what you are buying

@ brickman - from what i've read / heard they are only really a styling cue as opposed to anything very technical , although on some modern TT bikes they come in lower than the top tube on the seat tube - especially 650c rears, because of the smaller wheel

what i really like is when they come in higher than the top tube

http://www.wilsoncycles.co.uk/f-ref/1021/hand-built-cycle-frame.htm (i can see no real technical reason for this style as opposed to just having the top tube higher but i think it looks great )

http://www.myfixedgear.net/dave-yates-reynolds-653-tt-frame

it's my (maybe wrong) understanding that it was italian bikes that started them in the 60s.

have a look at this UK bike - it's name (carlton giro d' italia ) betraying an inspiration from italian frame styles of the time (and maybe a pinter hwo to build it up looking period (period for the styling no matter how old the bike actually is ) - unfortunately as you hate it - i think period will be a lot of silver :

http://www.flickr.com/photos/74418119@N00/2233980579/

the forks can be seen there too - a departure from the lugged design and internally lugged to give the all in one appearance of the sloping crown the so called 'cinelli crown' - another italian styling cue i think

tons of welded cheaper bikes have them now too - not sure i've ever seen an allu bike with the side on seat stay tops actually -

but in the lugged steel frame i reckon it still look very classy

Does anybody have any information on this fork? The fork comes with a track frame with the stickers Vitus. I am not so sure that the frame is an actually Vitus, so if anybody can identify the pantograph on the fork, it would be great!?
Does bertin ring any bell?

I would say it is french.... I know, not much help

A Russian RECORD-CHARKOV
One was for sale here:
http://www.lfgss.com/thread56294.html

any guesses on the frame?

had a larger than standard steerer thread and the headtube was too big diameter for standard headset too (i had to shim ) french thread? who knows - i overwrote it with english thread

• but has english BB -
  
  

the front lugs are pretty distinctive (i've seen them on another bike - but can't remember what )- and check the seat tube to lug - tapered -

seat post is about 26.2 i think - it's pretty thin anyway

any clues?

Does anybody have any information on this fork? The fork comes with a track frame with the stickers Vitus. I am not so sure that the frame is an actually Vitus, so if anybody can identify the pantograph on the fork, it would be great!?

There is a bit of a Wilier about that, is there not?

any guesses on the frame?

had a larger than standard steerer thread and the headtube was too big diameter for standard headset too (i had to shim ) french thread? who knows - i overwrote it with english thread

• but has english BB -
  
  

the front lugs are pretty distinctive (i've seen them on another bike - but can't remember what )- and check the seat tube to lug - tapered -

seat post is about 26.2 i think - it's pretty thin anyway

any clues?

looks like that russian track frame that had been passed around the forum by the description you have given it probably is eastern european.

looks like that russian track frame that had been passed around the forum by the description you have given it probably is eastern european.

http://static.lfgss.com/attachments/34113d1291889268-dscf2016.jpg"RECORD-CHARKOV" English Thread Bottom Bracket
http://static.lfgss.com/attachments/33923d1291287336-dscf2014.jpg
http://farm5.static.flickr.com/4057/4667144252_19933c6bb8_z.jpg

thanks it does seem to be one of those - it may even be the gold one resprayed -

@ brickman - from what i've read / heard they are only really a styling cue as opposed to anything very technical , although on some modern TT bikes they come in lower than the top tube on the seat tube - especially 650c rears, because of the smaller wheel

what i really like is when they come in higher than the top tube

http://www.wilsoncycles.co.uk/f-ref/1021/hand-built-cycle-frame.htm (i can see no real technical reason for this style as opposed to just having the top tube higher but i think it looks great )

http://www.myfixedgear.net/dave-yates-reynolds-653-tt-frame

it's my (maybe wrong) understanding that it was italian bikes that started them in the 60s.

have a look at this UK bike - it's name (carlton giro d' italia ) betraying an inspiration from italian frame styles of the time (and maybe a pinter hwo to build it up looking period (period for the styling no matter how old the bike actually is ) - unfortunately as you hate it - i think period will be a lot of silver :

http://www.flickr.com/photos/74418119@N00/2233980579/

the forks can be seen there too - a departure from the lugged design and internally lugged to give the all in one appearance of the sloping crown the so called 'cinelli crown' - another italian styling cue i think

tons of welded cheaper bikes have them now too - not sure i've ever seen an allu bike with the side on seat stay tops actually -

but in the lugged steel frame i reckon it still look very classy

Excellent info! given me lots to think about :)
I'm out of the country for a few week and i'll have some pay when i get back, hope to start the project then. But for now he/she is residing in my room, keeping warm by the radiator with an old pair of 27" fitted, with 25c tyres (went 23c on Dawes they are too skinny for normal riding) clearances will be TIIIIIGGGGGHHT*

*enough ;)

I think I bought a Cinelli track frame today, I am about 85 % sure it is a Cinelli, but it is branded "Pedal Atleten" and it does not have 3-hole lugs. On the other hand it has got a Cinelli panto fork crown, Cinelli bb and a Cinelli panto (brake) bridge. Furthermore the seatpost lug is typical Cinelli. I have written to Cinelli, but someone in here might be able to help me confirm that the Frame is in fact a Cinelli. Check out the photos:

Hi, new to the forum and hoping someone can help me identify some parts on a bike I picked up.

Frame has a reynolds 531 sticker on it, and stamped on the bottom bracket is WG3000784 if that means anything? also, i do not know if the forks are original?

the parts have been added afterwards (the guy i bought it from was given the frame and fork by someone, and they have been resprayed- he told me it is a raleigh athena, but google only comes up with a ladies bike) and the majority are shimano 105, however can someone tell me how old they are? i have looked for markings and the only ones are inside the crank arm.

thanks!

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