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• #8202
Everyone thinks about the juicers winning races but not about guys like this that maybe do it to support thier leader. Would put you in a situation if you won the tour and turns out your domestiques were pinging when they towed you along for 3 weeks.
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• #8203
No confessions for a few days, I’m getting bored.
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• #8204
Am I right in thinking Preidler was providing his blood for others? I'm not sure I understand what it means by 'blood extraction'
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• #8205
No, you take your own blood out, to reinfuse later, giving you a performance boost. It’s very difficult to detect, whereas it’s much easier to detect the use of someone else’s blood.
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• #8206
Am I right in thinking Preidler was providing his blood for others?
No, it would have been for autologous transfusion. Take your blood out when you don't need it, recover as usual, put it back in later and improve your oxygen transport capacity.
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• #8207
Okay thanks. I can't help but pity the mental state of the people who end up in these situations. The pressure must be horrendous.
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• #8208
Yeah I'd agree I think it's very sad.
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• #8209
It is the nature of professional sport at the top level, when the difference between winning or losing is tiny but difference between the rewards or each are huge. Its a moral choice many fail.
I seem to remember the 1000 day theory. I heard it specifically related to cycling but I am sure it can be more generally applied, that the 1000 days are the ones where you are racing clean and trying to win and failing, and then after you you start to dope to secure your career.
Its the sporting equivalent of lying on your CV to get a better job.
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• #8210
Its the sporting equivalent of lying on your CV to get a better job.
And then continually lying to keep it.
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• #8211
Just watched four Russian skiers Mapei'ing the Nordic skiing on Eursosport lolz
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• #8212
^ this. I dont want to be prejudicial, but really had to believe that the majority of the Russian team is not doping. At least with the Norwegians you assume the majority are clean. I would love to see the VO2 numbers for these animals
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• #8213
Not Gewiss, or did Mapei also have an EPO podium sweep back in the day?
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• #8214
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• #8215
Huh! They did a Gewiss!
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• #8216
Just watching it now. Why didn’t they duke it out in the end? They just let Museeuw have it. Did they just respect team hierarchy that much?
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• #8217
They knew he was more doped than them and that they didn't have a chance.
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• #8218
Leferve called up Giorgio Squinzi, head honcho at Mapei, and asked him who should win. The order was agreed, then Tafi, quite rightly, argued he should finish second.
Monument count
Tafi 3 Bortalami 0
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• #8219
Sock length, saggy jerseys, no lids, juicing hard - glorious stuff.
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• #8220
I mean that in I still have a certain nostalgia for the sport then. I didn’t know anyone was cheating because I was a kid and it was blissful.
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• #8221
More details starting to come out about this Austro-German doping case;
https://www.euronews.com/2019/03/20/at-least-21-athletes-suspected-of-blood-doping-german-prosecutor
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• #8222
The raid was Austro German, the doping was international.
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• #8223
"Germany, Austria, Italy, Sweden, Finland, Estonia, Croatia, Slovenia and Hawaii"
and that's just Team Sky.
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• #8224
Possibly, we don't know for sure yet. But what we do know is that the organisers of this doping ring are from Germany and Austria.
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• #8225
We know that the doping was international, unless you doubt the Staatsanwalt. The doctor is German; Kohl, Schuhmacher and Kopp have spoken about him in courts previously.
This really.