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  • Ahhh she said that she is getting paid to cover the last two weeks. So she will happily accept money so shows what she is made off.

  • A lot of people on twitter clinging onto to the hope Aso will uphold the ban. This is not about following the rules or doing the right thing it's just about a rider people don't like.

  • She’s wants to celebrate her birthday first.

  • I used to be on an American forum. When Wiggins won the Tour they were all going crazy, saying he came out of nowhere. No Americans had any idea who he was, therefore he "must" be doping.
    Froome might be a freak of nature who never had any decent coaching. Once he got proper training, bike fit, team support, he was able to perform.
    Merckx was asked "Where is the next Merckx?" He said there could be lots of them, but they are playing basketball or soccer, or have no interest in sports at all. There could be someone with the potential of Froome working right next to you, but they had no interest in cycling. 

  • This is not about following the rules or doing the right thing it's just about a rider people don't like.

  • ASO have already said Froome will start-they also said they'd informed Sky of their intentions three weeks ago and not had any response even after WADA cleared Froome last week which seems pretty shit.

  • Sounds like they said they would refuse Froome’s entry but could only do so once he submitted it.
    Doesn’t seem like much incentive to submitt the entry, until they knew it couldn’t really be refused?

  • But wouldn't you expect Sky to inform the organiser that he'd been cleared and there was no longer an issue sooner rather than later? Or respond to the fact that he'd been disinvited in the first instance three weeks prior?

    Seems a bit cunty to sit on it for three days.

  • That last bit is quite deep but let us not forget Merckx was a doper. But I do agree: accidents at a DNA level over millions of generations gave us us, and accidents and so evolution continues to occur. Firmly believe in genetic freaks. Humans don't stand still evolutionary speaking.

  • Ah we all loved Bumface, unless you stood on his dog. Or touched him. Or told him you were a fan of The Cure.

  • I think between UCI, Aso and Sky it's generally them trying to out-cunt each other

  • Froome was busy watching the football and celebrating by snorting lines of tramadol, probably.

  • Humans don't stand still evolutionary speaking

    They've been parked for a long time now. Don't confuse freaks with populations, or epigenetics with genetics. Large populations and rampant miscegenation (sapiens couldn't even keep his hands of neanderthalenis, or vice versa) makes any substantial population wide evolution unlikely for the time being, but outliers will always occur and technology (training and nutrition) can reveal human potential which was always there but not previously expressed.

  • Is there anything you don't know? #mdcc_tester4PM

  • Ok hyperbolic to call it evolution but the fact remains nature is unpredictable and genetic outliers are both highly probable and happening really. Admittedly I did study this at degree level twenty years ago but that was the fundamental when I did: accidental mutation that is reproductively advantageneous. In other words, shit happens

  • Aren't they more likely to be unknown and unmeasured physiological responses because while humans /mammalian responses to physical stress and training are old, knowledge of them is not?

  • Tl;Dr modern training methods based on periodicity and what the body can handle are at most what? 60 -100 years old? Sports science and physiology isn't that much older?

    Plus the selection profile of people competing in these sports is getting broader.

    I dunno.

  • bro do u even lactase persistence?

  • Isn't it less genetic mutation and more the fact that the existing humans are more readily identified as being good at certain sports and with globalisation, shared knowledge, talent spotting, etc. these people can much more rapidly find a sport that makes the most of their genetic gifts?

  • Latter I reckon. ie. at what stage of human history did Kenyan runners actually get the ability to compete on the world stage? They didn't just suddenly become great distance runners but they did quite rapidly get the opportunity to travel overseas and make money from being great distance runners.

  • I don't know but I think we're saying the same things.

    #itsnotaboutsalbutamol

  • Around the same time European coaches realised Kenyan domestic anti-doping was LOLZ

  • Dude just won 3 GTs in a row. If we are assuming he did it clean he is a proper monster. I'm comfortable with genetic freak.

  • do u even lactase persistence?

    Yeah, but that occurred in completely different conditions to the present day, i.e. a much smaller population under greater stress, coupled with a new technology (herding) which made the mutation tremendously advantageous. That allowed a relatively small genetic mutation to be exploited to out-breed genetic lines lacking lactase-persistence. Modern humans are seldom isolated for long in small highly stressed groups where something substantial could evolve, and even when they are they promptly go on holiday and start fucking the locals and differences between populations get smoothed out.

  • I just think it is very important not to define the possibilities and limits of human endeavour by what has gone before. I don't know if it can be called evolution but you shouldn't put a lid on what is humanly possible, and that limits can't be pushed past.

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