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• #3528
As much as its fun to demonise the Russians, and obviously the doping goes very deep there, you can be sure they're not the only ones at it.
Else surely they'd be winning everything
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• #3529
this just in: La Gazzetta dello Sport reporting Astana will not be awarded a WorldTour licence for 2015.
edit: ah, there's a 'yet' missing some say.
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• #3530
Bloody Russians. Coming over here and hurting our beloved Rocky.
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• #3531
That story has gone mainstream.
“All athletes who make such claims have infringed with doping regulations in the past. Such people then contact journalists and tell stories. For professionals, such stories are only laughable.”
Hardly reassuring words from RUSADA
They sound more interested in saving face than finding corruption.
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• #3533
Sports on snow don't count
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• #3534
So was doped to the gills and still 3 mins slower than "clean cos she's British" Paula Radcliffe.
Google the fellow patients of her homeopathic doctor Dr. Muller-Wohlfahrt and the treatments he prescribes for lolz.
Maurice Green, Tyson Gay, Usain Bolt, Bayern Munich team doc and Actovegin injections.
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• #3535
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• #3536
"As an "Outside the Lines" reporter watched, the doctor spent an hour listening patiently while tending to Radcliffe. As she lay on a treatment table, the sinewy, muscled distance runner gradually morphed into a human voodoo doll. The doctor went about sticking her with a bevy of needles, injecting a numbing agent and then leaving the needles in place. Into the needles' plastic base or hub that remained above the skin, he followed with injections of natural lubricants and hyaluronic acid."
LOL
"The celebrity doctor swears by the straw-colored liquid drawn into his needles and injected freely as his healing agent of choice. Asked how many of his rounds of injections include Actovegin, Muller-Wohlfahrt answers matter-of-factly, "Nearly every one."
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• #3537
Actovegin
I'm pretty sure that's my gran's preferred brand of margarine.
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• #3538
Dear Paula became perma-injured and non-competetive from May 2011 onwards which is complete coincidental to the IAAF introducing it's biopassport program in Dec 2010. Of course.
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• #3539
There's an English translation and link to the documentary about systematic doping in Russian track and field here :
http://www.allthingsgym.com/german-documentary-systematic-russian-doping/
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• #3540
Astana and Vino may well be done.
the Inner Ring @inrng · 11m11 minutes ago
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• #3541
If that's true, they deserve banning solely for being fucking stupid enough for continuing to associate themselves with him.
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• #3542
Race Radio (TheRaceRadio):
La Gazetta reports that CONI have pictures of Ferrari attending a Astana training camp last year https://translate.google.com/translate?sl=auto&tl=en&js=y&prev=_t&hl=en&ie=UTF-8&u=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.gazzetta.it%2FCiclismo%2F08-12-2014%2Fastana-ritiro-ferrari-montecatini-doping-vinokourov-dottor-mito-100169700649.shtml&edit-text= -
• #3543
Jersey Pocket Howard (TheJerseyPocket):
"FERRARI DENIES LINKS TO ASTANA, FEARS REPUTATION DAMAGE"- You couldn't make this shit up! http://www.thecyclingtimes.com/ferrari-denies-links-to-astana-fears-reputation-damage/http://twitter.com/TheJerseyPocket/status/541951283725619200
retweet of @velocast tweet
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• #3544
Except thecyclingtimes.com is a spoof site, as a cursory 2 second glance at the other stories on there will confirm.
So yes, you can make this shit up.
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• #3545
Nibali had previous link to Ferrari too, while he was at Liquigas
plus ça change, plus c'est la même chose
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• #3546
That's not quite true though, is it. I'm all for exposing dopers but nothing is in the public domain that shows that Nibali dopes.
No-one, except Ferrari and his clients, knows for sure who works with him. It was rumoured that he was working with a number of Liquigas riders, specifically Pellizotti, Kreuziger and Gasparotto, but no-one has, yet, proven this.
This investigation has linked 90 riders to Ferrari, but we don't know, yet, who they are and won't until charges are brought. Gazetta are being very clear though, that Nibali is not implicated in anyway.
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• #3547
Gazetta would be very clear, but given the spate of positives at Astana and the the murky presence of Dr Ferrari, it is rather fanciful to draw of picture of a team where there is widespread doping APART from their top rider.
Of course that is speculative, but if Astana burns it will be very difficult to look at Nibali and be confident he is/has been riding clean
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• #3548
There could be other explanations for performance drop off of course -Didn't she have her second child in 2010, for example? I don't follow athletics, but always had the impression of her being quite vocal about antidoping, with calls for big bans for cheating athletes and the like. Not saying she was definitely clean though. The ESPN article, and the stuff about Muller-Wohlfahrt, and Actovegin injections sounds right dodgy.
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• #3549
Be interesting to see how he responds for sure. He's sounded pretty fucked off with the stuff up until now (but not fucked off enough to leave)!
What is the argument for not banning a whole team, or striking off results for the whole team, in the event of a doping positive in a particular race? EG Nibali would lose his TDF win because he was helped to get it by a juiced domestic.
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• #3550
Well its looks increasingly like Astana will be denied a World Tour License, I think that is the only collective punishment the UCI can impose.
^ and that's just one of the cases exposed in the documentary