Doping

there's another 'insider' who'd disagree with you

Greg LeMond: Lance Armstong was 'a top-30 rider at best'

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What does he know, he doesn't even post on a fixie forum.

...and as we all know, everyone doping still does it make for a level playing field. It's expensive to start with so those with the most money can afford the better stuff and more of it. Then, you have to consider who is willing to risk their health the most and also who is willing to take the most risks with regards to getting caught.

why jump on Febrile, or consider whatever ban? the man says he was there, no one of you was. let him speak.

why jump on Febrile, or consider whatever ban? the man says he was there, no one of you was. let him speak.

He has spoken.

Now it's our turn to reply. That's a how a conversation works.

Isn't the gist of Febrile's argument that we're not allowed to speak though?

I mean - we weren't there, man.

That is - if we take comments of a complete stranger on faith and at face value.

"Why jump on Febrile, or consider whatever ban? the man says he was there, no one of you was. let him speak."

No one is talking about banning Febrile from posting...

why jump on Febrile, or consider whatever ban? the man says he was there, no one of you was. let him speak.

I was interested in this bit and trying to establish how/if this would be true

For me he's still the greatest Tour Rider ever

Hardly, he's not even won the Tour has he… and if we're talking about tour riders the cannibal is head and shoulders above LA, hainault was more dogged etc.
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It's wrong to condemn a man unless you've ridden in his slipstream.**

Absolute tosh. The man himself has admitted his own guilt. I can condemn any proven cheat I want, whatever arena they participate in. By your criteria only another sprinter would be able to condemn Ben Johnson?

hainault was more dogged

in b4 Schick

Hinault:

Hainault:

Out of the 30 other British riders who were in the region (amateur and Pro) almost every single one of us was doping to some extent. I'm not proud of it, but it was so widespread that it just became normalised. Like having a massage after a race.

Was there a point at which you made a tacit choice and doped? Was it worth it?

Live interview with Michael Rasmussen on Danish TV tonight at 21:30 GMT / 22:30 CET... If anyone Danish speaking on here is able and willing to watch and and report back and/or write a brief summary, it would be greatly appreciated.

He's just claimed that all 9 riders on the Rabobank 2007 Tour team were doping. Which doesn't look good for the reputations of Flecha and Freire, nor the ongoing employment prospects of Peter Weening.

what's Febrile's real name?

Live interview with Michael Rasmussen on Danish TV tonight at 21:30 GMT / 22:30 CET... If anyone Danish speaking on here is able and willing to watch and and report back and/or write a brief summary, it would be greatly appreciated.

I'm tuned in - and ready to display my horrific English skills.

Google translate that summary http://ekstrabladet.dk/sport/cykling/article2138742.ece

in b4 Schick

Hinault:

Hainault:

Hinault is one of the few former winners who won't admit to doping.
He is still employed by the Tour.
He stormed out of a live TV pre tour interview, in Corsica,
because the journalist dared to mention doping Jalabert etc

I really like the jersey he wears in the fistfight,
the companies appearing on mine were all household names,
Bought with bank loans and sold later by his boss.
None of them are trading anymore.

Google translate that summary http://ekstrabladet.dk/sport/cykling/article2138742.ece

Google translate is quite perceptive about Frank Hoj.

- What I remember is that there is someone who asks 'is there anyone who has something to run on to on Saturday?' Frank High puts their hand up and says 'it'll do'.

"I'm tuned in - and ready to display my horrific English skills."

Any info you can provide will be greatly appreciate... Do I understand it correctly that Riis actively (according to Rasmussen) actually encouraged/facilitated doping on his team?

Also, did he (Rasmussen) blood dope with the help of his parents... using their blood?

Also, did he (Rasmussen) blood dope with the help of his parents... using their blood?

His fathers blood turned out to be non-compatible with Rasmussen's - so the answer is no.

Ah okay... still sounds a little freaky. Did he directly (in so many words) accuse Riss of facilitating the doping programme on the team?

I have not yet read acussions to that degree on the role of Riis, 'only' that Riis was fully aware of what was given to riders.

Wonder if it will ever end...

Highlights from Rasmussen's book in Mikkel Condé's timeline and here https://twitter.com/MikeKaltoft

performance enhancement wasn't always the objective as it appears:

"The chicken bought cannabis for strictly come dancing"

http://www.bt.dk/cykling/kyllingen-koebte-hash-paa-christiania-under-vild-med-dans

It beggars belief that Sky employed Leinders without understanding his past. Didn't they think to ask Flecha, who had worked with him?