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  • If you look at his results last two years its hilarious; you can almost stick the date he started doping on a calendar.

    Does two GTs completely anonymously then home for 2 weeks and starts smashing a couple of Italian races.

    This time last year he's scored 80 odd ranking points on this index and finished 86th in the Giro. This year 800+ points and 9th.

  • So David Millar says the whole peloton was chatting shit about Vini Fantini in week 1 of the Giro, soooooooo what was this about?

  • Puts Nibbles in an awkward position, 'well done for being the only rider to stay with a bloke doped to the gills, how did you do it?'

  • That's very simplistic. What about the 8 riders who finished ahead of him on GC? Are they doped too?

  • I don't think Nibali was doping, just that it puts riders in a awkward situation and fingers will start to point

  • Indeed - you've just started pointing them.

  • I think they're all at it. Very few exceptions.

  • Dope of the day.

    Two for the price of one

  • A positive test requires two samples to be positive. Otherwise it's just an adverse finding in one of them. Maybe contamination or non-un-mis-calibrated machine or something.

    It'd be simpler if they used my process of detection

    Giro, Check
    Italian rider, Check
    = doping positive

    Far cheaper, far less time required. Job done.

    :)

    I loled in a racist manner

  • I think they're all at it. Very few exceptions.

    this

  • Compared to 10 years or 20 years ago, it's clear that speeds are down so if everyone is doping, they are doing a good job of hiding it.

  • yeah it's not as overt as it was then for sure. Doesn't mean it isn't rife in one form or another.
    Not that I'm an expert.

  • Air was less dense in the 90s. #trufax

  • Compared to 10 years or 20 years ago, it's clear that speeds are down so if everyone is doping, they are doing a good job of hiding it.

    Recovery drugs innit, oh and weight loss drugs. Less power, moar consistency.

    That said the Vini boys got popped for Poe, which anecdotally is a redundant drug, in the Bertagnolli affidavit Dr Ferrari said anyone was crazy for using it. That was 2010 I think.

  • EPO is not a redundant drug, even at microdosing levels it offers a significant performance improvement. What we might be seeing here is the testers getting better at spotting microdosing.

  • What the fuck did Mauro do to himself between March 3rd podium pic here and his moon-faced appearance at the Giro? He looks like a different person.

    Also another possibly relevant link from back in Feb pointing at a more sensitive EPO test that was on the verge of being introduced. Have they brought the MAIIA test into use as a surprise a la CERA test introduction?

  • Ah, he's using the old 'body double' doping method...

  • google image search just returned this:

  • blimey

  • a bit:

  • Here we go, WADA approved a new standard EPO test protocol (not MAIIA) that came into effect from 01/03/13.

    Allows for "atypical analytical findings" in addition to the old "adverse analytical finding" if you fail one of two tests.

  • EPO is not a redundant drug, even at microdosing levels it offers a significant performance improvement. What we might be seeing here is the testers getting better at spotting microdosing.

    I wasn't saying it wasn't useful, just that you couldn't get away with it easily anymore, and the drug du jour had changed

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