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• #1927
So David Millar says the whole peloton was chatting shit about Vini Fantini in week 1 of the Giro, soooooooo what was this about?
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• #1928
Puts Nibbles in an awkward position, 'well done for being the only rider to stay with a bloke doped to the gills, how did you do it?'
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• #1929
That's very simplistic. What about the 8 riders who finished ahead of him on GC? Are they doped too?
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• #1930
I don't think Nibali was doping, just that it puts riders in a awkward situation and fingers will start to point
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• #1931
Indeed - you've just started pointing them.
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• #1932
I think they're all at it. Very few exceptions.
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• #1933
Dope of the day.
Two for the price of one
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• #1934
A positive test requires two samples to be positive. Otherwise it's just an adverse finding in one of them. Maybe contamination or non-un-mis-calibrated machine or something.
It'd be simpler if they used my process of detection
Giro, Check
Italian rider, Check
= doping positiveFar cheaper, far less time required. Job done.
:)
I loled in a racist manner
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• #1935
I think they're all at it. Very few exceptions.
this
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• #1936
Compared to 10 years or 20 years ago, it's clear that speeds are down so if everyone is doping, they are doing a good job of hiding it.
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• #1937
yeah it's not as overt as it was then for sure. Doesn't mean it isn't rife in one form or another.
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• #1939
Compared to 10 years or 20 years ago, it's clear that speeds are down so if everyone is doping, they are doing a good job of hiding it.
Recovery drugs innit, oh and weight loss drugs. Less power, moar consistency.
That said the Vini boys got popped for Poe, which anecdotally is a redundant drug, in the Bertagnolli affidavit Dr Ferrari said anyone was crazy for using it. That was 2010 I think.
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• #1941
EPO is not a redundant drug, even at microdosing levels it offers a significant performance improvement. What we might be seeing here is the testers getting better at spotting microdosing.
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• #1943
What the fuck did Mauro do to himself between March 3rd podium pic here and his moon-faced appearance at the Giro? He looks like a different person.
Also another possibly relevant link from back in Feb pointing at a more sensitive EPO test that was on the verge of being introduced. Have they brought the MAIIA test into use as a surprise a la CERA test introduction?
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• #1944
Ah, he's using the old 'body double' doping method...
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• #1945
google image search just returned this:
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• #1946
blimey
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• #1947
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• #1948
a bit:
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• #1949
Here we go, WADA approved a new standard EPO test protocol (not MAIIA) that came into effect from 01/03/13.
Allows for "atypical analytical findings" in addition to the old "adverse analytical finding" if you fail one of two tests.
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• #1950
EPO is not a redundant drug, even at microdosing levels it offers a significant performance improvement. What we might be seeing here is the testers getting better at spotting microdosing.
I wasn't saying it wasn't useful, just that you couldn't get away with it easily anymore, and the drug du jour had changed
If you look at his results last two years its hilarious; you can almost stick the date he started doping on a calendar.
Does two GTs completely anonymously then home for 2 weeks and starts smashing a couple of Italian races.
This time last year he's scored 80 odd ranking points on this index and finished 86th in the Giro. This year 800+ points and 9th.