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absolutely beautiful bike. also, what fenders are those? have been thinking of designing and making something almost identical from plexi-glass but could save a lot of time if they're available already.
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[QUOTE=Skully;1360819]Hi Leon. Nice of you to write that. I think. No the cranks I sold a while back.
What do you mean i think?...it was sincere and hearfelt as it is a lovely bike...i like path frames as they remind me of the past [sentimental mode]....just that if you are selling up, thought i would ask about the cranks....good luck with the sale and hope you get sufficent ££ for your needs.[/quote]
Leon
I didn't mean anything really. I just have doubts about selling. And this made it worse! But thanks for your kind words, nontheless. I just meant I think as in 'Oh Fuck What Am I Doing!?', not 'shut the fuck up marxist'.Yeah I flogged the Chater Leas about a year ago, not long after building this frame as you see at up there^. I couldn;t be arsed with pins and stuff, I wanted to use this as my daily commuter. Which I did. It was great. But the time has come to move on. It was either this, or a British track frame that I am also very fond of.
People:
Pics up shortly, and an invitation to POST a decent BID on here, in public. This is gonna be like eBay, sale will end at 3 pm tomorrow. Only thing is, I might choose an offer that's lower, but easier for me to get the frame to the buyer, or because I like the cut of their jib. Perhaps sounds strange, but I want this forum to keep what's special about it going. And that way of doing things already happens, but under the radar by PM. You get the idea: someone posts 'dibs!', the seller gets a PM from a good friend saying 'don't sell to ******!' and then the seller says 'sorry, it's already gone'. Money is not the only motivator!
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Glad you have scruples Skully, you know how much I like this frame. Please pass it onto someone nice.
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It's gorgeous, it really is.
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For sale as a lot: what you see here^ JRJ Frame, Fork, Tange Levin headset and custom painted Salmon Super Profil mudguards (with correct fixings). + vintage alloy short seat post and saddle clamp shown in last photo.Offers from £150 please TO BE POSTED HERE IN THE THREAD. Collection from SE4, or Soho. Please include where you will collect from / whether will need it packaging for collection by courier. Courier collection should be from Soho, monday-friday 10am-5pm.
IMPORTANT! Don't bid more than once! Bid how much you want to pay for it. I will choose the offer I like best, on its merits.
Frame is from about 1950. Verbal provenance was that it is a JRJ (early Bob Jackson). I have not researched this. The fork has a clear number, the BB has some stamps that are obscured by paint. Fairly steep angles, close clearance for 27s (extremely so in rear) means that 700s will fit this bike fairly nicely. Short wheelbase, some toe overlap with 27"s and mudguards. Short rake fork for this era, round section with nice double plate crown, and nice fat round ends. Plain, unusual hand-wrapped lugs. Large spearpoints on the HT, so large my head-decal doesn't quite fit between them. Elegantly fluted seat stay caps. Chain stays are fillet brazed into shell, and are very stiff for something this old, oval > round section. Pencil-thin seat stays. Front and rear lamp brackets. Curved brake bridge (drilled) has nice kite-shaped lugs at the seatstay joins.
Repro decals from HLloyd. When it came to me it didn't have original paint, so wet enamel job you see invented by me, by Dave Crowe of Colourtech.
Spacings: rear 110mm, front 98 mm (front has narrow-axle dropout, as per Engligh frames of this period).
NO DENTS. some small chips and flakes from the paint, particularly where brakes and bolts have contacted. Nothing that detracts seriously. There seems to have been some bending done on the DS rear stay to curl the very tip outwards, perhaps to make spring the frame for a 115mm or 120mm hub a little easier. It didn't bother me, but I reckon it could be straightened fairly well if you were to do any work to the frame or don't mind losing some paint on the ends.
Sorry, the title of the thread is incorrect: the Actual Measurements are:
ST c-c 57cm
TT c-c 57.5cm
chain stays: 41cm to centre of dropouts.Here are some shots of details. I have some more, ask if you want to see anything. The wheel shown here is a 700, with a 22mm tyre. As you can see the front brake-drop is larger than the rear.
Airlites pics and Belleri bars & some GB brake kit in a short while.
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Belleri bars, a 70s french touring bar. Width at ends: 460mm, width at centre of flat section around 430mm, so not crazy-wide. Drop/rise is minimal, about 30 - 35 mm, and forward sweep very small, about 15mm. They're extremely comfortable, I liked using the curves as well as the flats. Included are both stems above, the left-hand one is 90mm, the right 70mm. The right one was with the bars when I acquired them. Both are Belleri and have the right clamp diameter, 25mm. I have no use so the buyer may as well have them both: getting the position of these bars right needs some experimentation.
No bids. Flat fee to first to collect from SE4 early or late in the day, (or Soho from 10-5 by arrangement, from tomorrow). PM regarding meeting. Dib if you must, but it means little to me.
£50
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£250 is my pitiful offer sir. I can pick up/collect/dance etc.
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British Hub Co. Airlite track hubs, on 27" rims. Hubs have minimal spoke marks when unlaced, considering their vintage. Double fixed rear, 40h, on Wolber model 58 rim, new last year, little brake wear. Currently spaced at 110mm. Front 32h with gripfast wingnuts, on Jalco DM15 rim, stripped. All threads are good. Axles straight. Chrome is lovely, logos all visible. The alloy flanges look dull in these pics but they've only been wiped down, a bit of polish will get them looking like they do at the very top of this thread.
Hubs need re-packing, as they were last done about a year ago. They have run absolutely wonderfully for me in that time. Rear rim has a few scrapes and a 5mm ding just on the outside of the rim edge. Not affected true of rim, and not touching tyre. Front rim wasn't destickered properly so some gluey residue remains. Rear rim needs a new locknut, I have been using a normal nut that's about the right width but a proper replacement shouldn't be hard to find.
I will include one generic vintage lockring too.
£150
Same deal as bars, first with cash in SE4 (or from tomorrow in Soho by arrangement) get 'em.
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absolutely beautiful bike. also, what fenders are those? have been thinking of designing and making something almost identical from plexi-glass but could save a lot of time if they're available already.
Hi
Daniel Salmon Super Profil.
In the UK they can be bought from www.cyclesplus.co.uk. You have to phone him, he won't do email. About £40 for them in brushed aluminium.
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Here's a little selection of some of the parts I seem to have accumulated.
Make me an offer for anything, or ask about anything else you might be looking for in this vein. Free to a good home.
I'd like £20 for the partial GB brake set. The levers are late 50s GB Arret. They have the original brass ferrules that fit into the tops to keep the cable outer in place. Shown are the rather scruffy half-hoods - they once were white!. Might be worth trying to clean up. One lever has no alloy GB badge. The brake on the right is the matching GB Sport Mk3, complete apart from blocks (which were manky old ones for steel rims. I used some nice grey Kool Stops which were loads better. Who cares about 'correct'? I just want to stop!). I snapped an arm off the other caliper, in a fit of stupidity ... not easy to do I might add, I just misjudged in an incident with a pipe wrench. So I haven't shown it but if anyone wants it for parts ... free. In fact, I may be able to obtain a replacement GB Sport Mk3 caliper if someone's desperate for it, ask. I have a feeling I know where one is.... They're really nice brakes and exert a very good braking for such old calipers.
The other brake is a cheapo weinmann 500. Free, I have the other one. The old plastic cloth-effect tape and rather nice 'Gem' rubber bar end plugs will go to the buyer of the bars, if wanted. The seat stem and clamp go to the frame buyer unless not wanted.
Those Pedals have the short threaded spindle, which are for steel cranks but work OK in alloy too, Lyotard (can't remember the model name but hilary posted a pair in better nick the other day). I actually have two pairs of these, free to a good home.
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Name and shame/shine! I demand it!
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For Sale: JRJ road/path f&f (57 ST x 56 TT), Airlite hubs, Belleri bars + some bits
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@Skülly
This. Can't. Be. True.
So nicely put together, it's a bit of a shame to see it split. Anyway good luck with the sale, I'm sure that your new bike will something special as well.
BTW sell the bars for silly money. They're worth it :-)