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• #4002
Struggling with daisy at the moment, with exercising her enough. Her recall is terrible, nonexistent with the slightest distraction so anything off the lead isn't an option. Tried fetch on the long recall training lead against my best instincts but not keen to keep that up, feels like she'll tangle and break all her legs. She gets good walks, and little bursts of running on an 8m lead but it's just not enough. Tbh I feel terrible about it. Advice would be very welcome if anyone has any
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• #4003
A friend with a dog that has good recall and somewhere quiet with lots of reinforcement when they come back together?
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• #4004
Bad recall like they'll run away or just a bit shit at coming back if distracted? Don't do my idea if the first one.
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• #4005
Scotty certainly has selective hearing sometimes but I'm never worried he'll fuck off too far from us.
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• #4006
Just keep the basics up, at home, at every opportunity, and game theory the reward pattern.
(we stash treats everywhere, so any 'come' may or may not be a treat). And then re-begin the proofing out in the wild.
It will get better.
That and try just being too silly to ignore. I give a very high pitched 'hip', which usually makes people laugh but it gets Calvin's attention.
Also try different words for come that have a different impetus.
I've found 'Hand/Touch' really good, where the nose to hand= treat, there are many others.
And then try games like place and go (treat to the ground, run off, command, treat on arrival, repeat. All of this works on the recall, and makes it more fun to be around you than the distraction, and thats the game won.And @snottyotter is right, that can help too.
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• #4007
A bit of mental simulation helps tire them out. Omar won't walk in heavy rain so on those days we do some treat hide and seek, hide and seek recall with a reward and he loves chasing a flirt pole. Nothing like emptying the tank running around in a large open space it seems to take the edge off and you can combine the games with training. Out on the walks stopping and letting her sniff anything she's interested in on your way round can help when mileage isn't an option.
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• #4008
Thank you all. Had a bit of a wobble earlier.
We've never lost her before but I'm pretty terrified of it. I think memories of losing the dogs for literally hours in woods in rural Northumberland has put the fear into me: that + roads = dead dog.
Time with other dogs is something we're keen to do but at the moment she gets so worked up at a dog even on the other side of the road that I think it would be good to make progress on her reactivity before trying it.
Will try those games and look up others - she's a bright & attentive dog so they should be good. Especially keen to try hand/touch.
Grateful for this thread as a place to land in and just shout 'aaaaaaarrrrrgh this is hard'. Thanks for understanding. -
• #4009
Idiot dog
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• #4010
Also, get a longer long lead and attach it to a harness on her back. Do fetch with a ball rolled very slowly rather than something that makes her bolt to the end of her like lead.
Enforce recall by calling her back with a very high value treat. If she doesn’t, then use gentle lead pressure to lure her in.
Practice makes perfect and you’ll have to do many reps.
Start the fetch maybe with a ball rolled very slowly 1 or 2 metres away max then build from there.
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• #4011
Is there any telling which bit is attached where? :)
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• #4012
Good luck with the training and she'll still need regular reinforcement even once you think you've cracked it. What breed is she ? we've got a Saluki from rural Northumberland as it happens. He's great and has very good recall in his normal state but he's so prey driven anything small and furry and he's off like a bullet. We have a full on GPS tracker now just incase and we stay well away from roads.
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• #4013
Fully understand- and I have a very 'biddable' dog indeed and find the process super frustrating at times.
I'm trying to learn to laugh at the failures/ frustrations currently. Not always succeeding, but trying.
@ak we've gone through so many iterations of fetch- its unbelievable how hard it is to cement the concept, and I have a fucking "retreiver"! -
• #4014
How old? Sorry if I missed it.
My lad is 9 months now. Knows come and will do it, unless there is more interesting stuff. I feel your pain.
A guy I was talking to the other day has a collar on his dog, it will do electric shock (said he doesn't use it), but also does a high pitch noise which he says he uses. Its good for jolting the dog out of their trance and back to reality. Might be worth considering?
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• #4015
Also. He has to wear his cone for another 8 days as his wound is healing slow. God give me strength.
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• #4016
Reggie and Luna. Love it. Hope he is behaving with the new addition.
It’s mostly harmonious
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• #4017
Daisy is a 2 year old alsation x lurcher (lurcherer?). We haven't had her since she was a pup, so lots of dismantling of habits to do during building up the good ones. 🤞
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• #4018
I've spent the week with my friend's beautiful old lurcher x welsh collie. Absolute dream dog, and am first in line for one of her grandpups this spring which couldn't be more exciting... 🤞
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• #4019
lurcher x welsh collie
Lollie?
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• #4020
Mongrel.
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• #4021
Looks like a lovely mix we met a Saluki/Border Collie Cross the other day which was similar and a really lovely dog. You'll have some high maintenance breed characteristics to deal with I'm sure but worth it. We're a sighthound family for life now.
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• #4022
She's gorgeous. I've known ~6 members of the extended family really well over the last 10 years and they're universally smart, very trainable, gentle, low-maintenance (once trained properly) dogs so very much hoping the genetics continue expressing as such! Obviously not overlooking the sighthound traits and the work that will be required....
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• #4023
This was her brother, my 'god-dog' and one of my best friends. Sadly passed earlier this year but look at the absolute goof!
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• #4024
If you know the others well and your getting him/her as a pup it sounds like you know exactly the kind of commitment your making which will set you up for the best start. Good luck with your new family member. We've got a new family member here too and initial introductions couldn't have gone better and Omar seems to have accepted Pippa-Rose already. I think if his behaviour is going to change in anyway it'll be with him being protective rather than jealous. We're trying our hardest to make him feel like he's not being left out which is hard as she's certainly taken over. I'm on more dog related than baby related duties at the moment it seems.
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• #4025
😍😍😍😍
Reggie and Luna. Love it. Hope he is behaving with the new addition.