Equipment recommendation

but bill, you were using shitty mavic open pros or something, designed for road riding, hardly gonna be tough are they, sputniks are triple box section, a fucks site strong than mavics.

Yes, I can't remember what they were, apart from that they were narrow section and f***ing rubbish. Well, for polo anyway!

I still ride with a cxp33 on the front...hasnt failed yet. Pretty tough.

Mavic EX721 26" rim, do not bend.

Ray, do you even have those shoes?

yeah i do, it was gonna be a joke... but i realised there actually quite good.

Frames.

1. 14 bike co. (i aint shitting you, you know that's the shizzle)
   
2. Charge Plug - Strong, heavy, OTP, reliable, flexible options for set-up
   
3. Charge Scissor - Strong, heavy, reliable, flexible options for set-up, allows for larger tyres
   
4. On One Pompino - Strong, light, very flexible options for set-up including V brake bosses, allows for larger tyres, cheap, not gash.
   
5. Surly Steamroller - Strong, light, very flexible options for set-up, allows for larger tyres,
   
6. Archie Wilkinson - cheap, quick, light, very strong. Mine has taken a lot of abuse and it's fine
   
7. IRO mark V - Strong, light, very flexible options for set-up (40mm length dropouts, hangers under the top tube for brake cable), solid feeling frame.
   
8. Brooklyn Machine Works Gangsta - strong, great geo, not big enough tyre clearance, no rear brake mounts
   
9. Fuji track - cheap & strong
   
10. Cotic Roadrat - A cheap alternative to a semi-compact polo frame akin to the Bruiser/BB, loads of braking choices, gusseted, semi-aggressive geo, strength unknown and is relatively light?!
    
11. Fixie inc. -light but solid, tighter geometry, small turning circle and good balance, caliper brake drills, no v-brake thingys
    
    

** Forks.**

1. NS RNS - not too tall, not much rake
   
2. Onza Tuff Guy - 40cm axle to crown, 30mm rake, great geometry and £18.99.
   
3. Sunn 26" 5.99 off ebay. very short steerer 150-160mm i think.
   
4. Brooklyn Machine Works burly, not much rake, Expensive
   
   

** Cranks.**

1. Profile Race Cranks durable, beefy
   
2. Miche Youth cranks, lots of crank lengths available, annoying BCD, file the outer ring and use the 36t and you have polo cranks for ~£50
   
   

** Bars.**

1. Easton EA 30 - Cheap, light and relatively strong
   
2. Tioga R35 or R60
   
   

** Hubs.**

1. Goldtec available in 36 and 48, not the cheapest, but pretty damn bombproof. they look rather schexy too. goldtecs are awesome but the bolts are made of cheese and round off easy, replace with stainless 6mm!
   
2. Somax, relatively cheap but awesome hubs that can be custom ordered in 48 for £108 a pair.
   
3. 14 bike co trick hubs - 48h, upgraded goldtecs (and mine were cheaper), had 8 spokes pull out and no damage at all to the hub flange.
   
   

** Rims.**

1. Rigida Sputnik - strong, wide for big tyres, come in 48h and very cheap
   
2. Velocity B43 (48 hole) - no braking surface, but very strong, Hassan reckons it's one of the straightest rims he's ever built. Narrow enough for 25 (and under) c width tyres. Expensive.
   
3. Plain and simple deep Vs
   
4. Rigida DP18/DP22. Cheaper than Velocity..
   
5. Sun Rhyno Lite XL - 26", 32h or 36h, the strongest, but £40...* cheaper pinned version only £20 on CRC, multiple crashes and mine still run true. Wider even than Chukkas*
   
6. Velocity Chukkas - super wide rim, comes in 48, marginally lighter than Sputniks, deep-profile means a stronger polo wheel, some questionable build-quality on the first batches, but all seems sorted now.
   
   

** Tyres.**

1. Schwalbe Marathon Plus - strong,a bit expensive, go for price match ♡♡♡♡♡ (5 heart rating)
   
2. Vittoria Randonneur - cheap, pretty thick and come in large sizes, a very good front tyre, grippy and tough
   
3. Thin tires. I've actually been pretty happy with the Gatorskins. Lean and quick.
   
4. Schwalbe CX Comp - Grippy as fuck on the front
   
5. Schwalbe Marathon Dureme HS 410 okay I haven't actually used them but they are basically an upgrade on the Marathon Plus. 5/5 on grip, protection and durability, light for the size, and available in 26x2.0, 700x35 and 700x40
   
6. Vittoria Zaffiro Pro Road Tyres- grippy tyre, that works in all conditions outdoors. Not really suitable if you like to burn rubber. Nice strong side-wall which makes it a bit more suitable than the Conti Dura Skin range. Nice range of colours, too.
   
7. Panaracer RibMo - features the same ultra-resistant strip as Marathon Plus but has more grip and is a rounded tyre allowing for more speed in the corners... the tyre of choice for polo outside of Europe.
   
8. Tioga Skidrow - great tyre for 26ers. Nice and fat and really grippy in all weather especially on turns - Chain Reaction
   http://www.chainreactioncycles.com/Models.aspx?ModelID=22341
   http://www.chainreactioncycles.com/Models.aspx?ModelID=22341
   http://www.chainreactioncycles.com/Models.aspx?ModelID=22341
   
9. Fyxation - really nice and grippy in dry, wide, 700, not so good in rain though but still better than thin tyres, bombproof
   
10. Schwalbe Big Apple - 26" fat and hard wearing, run super low pressure for extra grip on wet courts
    
    

Brakes.

1. DNA V Brake mount, big, expensive but lets you run a v brake!
   
2. TT Tektro quartz r725 brake. - great, doesn't work with sputnik as the brake isn't wide enough
   
3. Fixed wheel
   
4. ProblemSolvers cable doubler allows two brakes on one lever
   
5. Shadow Conspiracy Linear Brake Cable - coated cable for easy cutting and super slidyness
   
6. Oval Aero front brake - mounts on the fork backwards - meaning that the caliper won't get bent everytime the front wheel turns back on the frame. Expensive, a little fussy to set-up, but works very well. Not suitable for tyres over 25c width.
   
7. Odyssey M2 dual-cable lever. (Strong, easy to use, many lever styles, file your cable ends down to stack two in the lever without any fussing.)
   
   

Shoes.

1. Vans chukka mid. suede - solid flat, slight ankle protection, flexible,
   
2. Reebok BB4600 Hi Tops - excellent ankle and toe protection, warm and waterproof if slightly chunky
   
   

** Alcohol.**

1. Kronenbourg 1664 (50cl can) - widely available, usually with offers on the price, price/taste/alcoholic content is good for the price.
   
2. Fireball as recommended by ROBBIE BOARDZ
   
3. Anything with a percentage higher than 5.5
   
4. 6 for 5 Carlsberg Export
   
5. Whiskey (good for polo olympics and cold weather)
   
6. A can of whatever you bought. Actually, I'll have another, if you got one.
   
7. Whisky, again. Good anytime anywhere.
   
   

** Flame.**

1. BIC - More durable than Clipper, better for opening bottles.
   
2. Lynx
   
3. Waterproof Matches
   
4. Dan's ice melting flamethrower
   
   
   

** Brooms.**

All have failed (try Ti?)
Ford 120 or 145 with sweeping attachment and plow (for winter)

As worn by Andy Lockett.

We'll all be identical soon FFS

Todd, you'll never be the same.

does anyone know of a steel, zero (or very low) rake fork with canti-mounts and clearance for 700/35c?

i effectively lengthened the trail on my bike last night by going from 23c-35c on the front and it definitely improved the steering with much less tuck-underitis. want to go further now...

Frames.

1. 14 bike co. (i aint shitting you, you know that's the shizzle)
   
2. Charge Plug - Strong, heavy, OTP, reliable, flexible options for set-up
   
3. Charge Scissor - Strong, heavy, reliable, flexible options for set-up, allows for larger tyres
   
4. On One Pompino - Strong, light, very flexible options for set-up including V brake bosses, allows for larger tyres, cheap, not gash.
   
5. Surly Steamroller - Strong, light, very flexible options for set-up, allows for larger tyres,
   
6. Archie Wilkinson - cheap, quick, light, very strong. Mine has taken a lot of abuse and it's fine
   
7. IRO mark V - Strong, light, very flexible options for set-up (40mm length dropouts, hangers under the top tube for brake cable), solid feeling frame.
   
8. Brooklyn Machine Works Gangsta - strong, great geo, not big enough tyre clearance, no rear brake mounts
   
9. Fuji track - cheap & strong
   
10. Cotic Roadrat - A cheap alternative to a semi-compact polo frame akin to the Bruiser/BB, loads of braking choices, gusseted, semi-aggressive geo, strength unknown and is relatively light?!
    
11. Fixie inc. -light but solid, tighter geometry, small turning circle and good balance, caliper brake drills, no v-brake thingys
    
    

** Forks.**

1. NS RNS - not too tall, not much rake
   
2. Onza Tuff Guy - 40cm axle to crown, 30mm rake, great geometry and £18.99.
   
3. Sunn 26" 5.99 off ebay. very short steerer 150-160mm i think.
   
4. Brooklyn Machine Works burly, not much rake, Expensive
   
   

** Cranks.**

1. Profile Race Cranks durable, beefy
   
2. Miche Youth cranks, lots of crank lengths available, annoying BCD, file the outer ring and use the 36t and you have polo cranks for ~£50
   
   

** Bars.**

1. Easton EA 30 - Cheap, light and relatively strong
   
2. Tioga R35 or R60
   
   

** Hubs.**

1. Goldtec available in 36 and 48, not the cheapest, but pretty damn bombproof. they look rather schexy too. goldtecs are awesome but the bolts are made of cheese and round off easy, replace with stainless 6mm!
   
2. Somax, relatively cheap but awesome hubs that can be custom ordered in 48 for £108 a pair.
   
3. 14 bike co trick hubs - 48h, upgraded goldtecs (and mine were cheaper), had 8 spokes pull out and no damage at all to the hub flange.
   
   

** Rims.**

1. Rigida Sputnik - strong, wide for big tyres, come in 48h and very cheap
   
2. Velocity B43 (48 hole) - no braking surface, but very strong, Hassan reckons it's one of the straightest rims he's ever built. Narrow enough for 25 (and under) c width tyres. Expensive.
   
3. Plain and simple deep Vs
   
4. Rigida DP18/DP22. Cheaper than Velocity..
   
5. Sun Rhyno Lite XL - 26", 32h or 36h, the strongest, but £40...* cheaper pinned version only £20 on CRC, multiple crashes and mine still run true. Wider even than Chukkas*
   
6. Velocity Chukkas - super wide rim, comes in 48, marginally lighter than Sputniks, deep-profile means a stronger polo wheel, some questionable build-quality on the first batches, but all seems sorted now.
   
   

** Tyres.**

1. Schwalbe Marathon Plus - strong,a bit expensive, go for price match ♡♡♡♡♡ (5 heart rating)
   
2. Vittoria Randonneur - cheap, pretty thick and come in large sizes, a very good front tyre, grippy and tough
   
3. Thin tires. I've actually been pretty happy with the Gatorskins. Lean and quick.
   
4. Schwalbe CX Comp - Grippy as fuck on the front
   
5. Schwalbe Marathon Dureme HS 410 okay I haven't actually used them but they are basically an upgrade on the Marathon Plus. 5/5 on grip, protection and durability, light for the size, and available in 26x2.0, 700x35 and 700x40
   
6. Vittoria Zaffiro Pro Road Tyres- grippy tyre, that works in all conditions outdoors. Not really suitable if you like to burn rubber. Nice strong side-wall which makes it a bit more suitable than the Conti Dura Skin range. Nice range of colours, too.
   
7. Panaracer RibMo - features the same ultra-resistant strip as Marathon Plus but has more grip and is a rounded tyre allowing for more speed in the corners... the tyre of choice for polo outside of Europe.
   
8. Tioga Skidrow - great tyre for 26ers. Nice and fat and really grippy in all weather especially on turns - Chain Reaction
   http://www.chainreactioncycles.com/Models.aspx?ModelID=22341
   http://www.chainreactioncycles.com/Models.aspx?ModelID=22341
   http://www.chainreactioncycles.com/Models.aspx?ModelID=22341
   http://www.chainreactioncycles.com/Models.aspx?ModelID=22341
   
9. Fyxation - really nice and grippy in dry, wide, 700, not so good in rain though but still better than thin tyres, bombproof
   
10. Schwalbe Big Apple - 26" fat and hard wearing, run super low pressure for extra grip on wet courts
    
    

Brakes.

1. DNA V Brake mount, big, expensive but lets you run a v brake!
   
2. TT Tektro quartz r725 brake. - great, doesn't work with sputnik as the brake isn't wide enough
   
3. Fixed wheel
   
4. ProblemSolvers cable doubler allows two brakes on one lever
   
5. Shadow Conspiracy Linear Brake Cable - coated cable for easy cutting and super slidyness
   
6. Oval Aero front brake - mounts on the fork backwards - meaning that the caliper won't get bent everytime the front wheel turns back on the frame. Expensive, a little fussy to set-up, but works very well. Not suitable for tyres over 25c width.
   
7. Odyssey M2 dual-cable lever. (Strong, easy to use, many lever styles, file your cable ends down to stack two in the lever without any fussing.)
   
   

Shoes.

1. Vans chukka mid. suede - solid flat, slight ankle protection, flexible,
   
2. Reebok BB4600 Hi Tops - excellent ankle and toe protection, warm and waterproof if slightly chunky
   
   

** Alcohol.**

1. Kronenbourg 1664 (50cl can) - widely available, usually with offers on the price, price/taste/alcoholic content is good for the price.
   
2. Fireball as recommended by ROBBIE BOARDZ
   
3. Anything with a percentage higher than 5.5
   
4. 6 for 5 Carlsberg Export
   
5. Whiskey (good for polo olympics and cold weather)
   
6. A can of whatever you bought. Actually, I'll have another, if you got one.
   
7. Whisky, again. Good anytime anywhere.
   
   

** Flame.**

1. BIC - More durable than Clipper, better for opening bottles.
   
2. Lynx
   
3. Waterproof Matches
   
4. Dan's ice melting flamethrower
   
   
   

** Brooms.**

All have failed (try Ti?)
Ford 120 or 145 with sweeping attachment and plow (for winter)

Ski Poles for Mallets:
NOT Decathlon homebrand (£8)-bend at the slightest mention of contact

Anybody know who runs NS RNS forks in London Town?

ohhhh!!!

you tell me for what bike and I tell you where? ;)

The bike we mentioned the other day...

nice!!

try Shop14, I will say your only bet

What bike is this cameron?

It's pending...(not that exciting really)

Tease.

NSrns are cheapest from winstanleys it hink £70 or so. but the geo is slacker than onza tuf guy, if its for the frame i think, then it will push the front end up 2cm more.

^this
wait a week and get the Onza's

then it will push the front end up 2cm more.

And this is a good thing? (geometry geekery confuses me)
Could I (carefully) take an angle grinder to the disc brake mounts without effecting the strength?

Found some on on NS forks ebay for £60 but the steerer looked quite short.

yeh you can take it off no probs.

ns forks and onza have 30mm rakeish (noza 30, ns 26) but ns are 2cm longer alxe to crown, so the geometry with the NS will be slacker in the head tube angle. not desirable in my opinion.

If someone's going for the Onza's then let me know as I'll probably be up for some.

I think I'll go that route.

You gonna mail them directly ?