Wanted: Tiny frame/bike for midget/umpalumpa other half

43cm on ebay 650c wheels:
BIN 260
http://cgi.ebay.co.uk/Fuji-Track-650-wheel-43cm-Junior-Fixed-Track-Bike_W0QQitemZ110505634490QQcmdZViewItemQQptZUK_Bikes_GL?hash=item19baa62aba#ht_968wt_1167

thats the one I bought for my missus, will let you know how she fares (she's 5foot2)... her birthday isn't till monday so.. yeah :)

cheers for all the info everyone, will keep you updated once I've seen the heidi frame- I always thought standover was quite important tho but obv considering all the other factors too?

post a pic of your lady's bike after you give it to her koal? sounds grand :)

cheers for all the info everyone, will keep you updated once I've seen the heidi frame- I always thought standover was quite important tho but obv considering all the other factors too?

Standover is meaningless when riding the bike, so is'nt a big deal IMHO. I have only around 1/4" over both my fixed and my utility bike, and it doesnt really bother me. I like a bigger safety margin off-road though.
(5'7" with only a 30" inside leg)

post a pic of your lady's bike after you give it to her koal? sounds grand :)

will do!

cheers for all the info everyone, will keep you updated once I've seen the heidi frame- I always thought standover was quite important tho but obv considering all the other factors too?

Of course stanover height is important...especially when travelling around towns etc..totally different from when riding on the track etc..if its too high how do you stop and unclip, unless you are leaning against a post etc..

Of course stanover height is important...especially when travelling around towns etc..totally different from when riding on the track etc..if its too high how do you stop and unclip, unless you are leaning against a post etc..

Of course you need to be able to stand over the bike. I meant you may not feel the need for the recommended 2". I dont personally.

Of course you need to be able to stand over the bike. I meant you may not feel the need for the recommended 2". I dont personally.

Agreed..had visions of riders sitting on the crown jewels!! ;-)

Pretty sure I lean mine to put a foot down at lights TBH, or when getting on or off. Humiliating, but you get used to it.

if a bike fits when you are on the saddle then you probably lean to put your foot down anyway, i feel like a kid when i straddle the TT at traffic lights - course normally i have mad skillz so i can just trackstand for hours (or find myself unable to clip out and fall onto the pavement in a horrific clatter).

Agreed..had visions of riders sitting on the crown jewels!! ;-)

great vision for a thurs morning ;) yeah definitely not necessary for 2 inch clearance but a wee bit over would be good to avoid chaffage?! also with a standover of 700mm, i've been trying all the OTP 49cm and am pretty much on tiptoe for all of them. falling on the top tube would be, erm, sore.

I always thought standover was quite important tho but obv considering all the other factors too?

Only become important when the Amercian want to climb onto a bicycle without any trouble, just like helmets only become official when the Amercian introduced them.

just like helmets only become official when the Amercian introduced them.

What are you talking about Ed?

are you talking about the compulsory wearing of helmets in cycling races or for recreational use

great vision for a thurs morning ;) yeah definitely not necessary for 2 inch clearance but a wee bit over would be good to avoid chaffage?! also with a standover of 700mm, i've been trying all the OTP 49cm and am pretty much on tiptoe for all of them. falling on the top tube would be, erm, sore.

You definitly want something with a slopping top tube IMHO. Something with geometry like a Giant Bowery for example.
You might get 1cm standover on a XS, which has a effective top tube length (most important measurement) of 51.2cm.
http://www.giant-bicycles.com/en-US/bikes/lifestyle/2344/32159/

Condor do Tempos and Pistas in 46cm and you get a fitting service when ordering. Cheapest build is about £830ish though. On Cycle to work scheme. Also got some older framesets on sale so you might give them a ring and see if they've got a 46cm in anything, could save a fair bit.

Looking at the geometry of the pista/tempo I estimated the standover of a 46 to be around 72 cm. Lovely looking bikes though. So defo worth throwing a leg over, or at least trying too ;)

You definitly want something with a slopping top tube IMHO. Something with geometry like a Giant Bowery for example.
You might get 1cm standover on a XS, which has a effective top tube length (most important measurement) of 51.2cm.
http://www.giant-bicycles.com/en-US/bikes/lifestyle/2344/32159/

Thanks for the heads up, but have been trying to check out a giant bowery and it's impossible - they also don't stock the XS in the UK :( see above post - you have to commit to buying the bowery/chixie before seeing or testing them first. basturds.

Condor do Tempos and Pistas in 46cm and you get a fitting service when ordering. Cheapest build is about £830ish though. On Cycle to work scheme. Also got some older framesets on sale so you might give them a ring and see if they've got a 46cm in anything, could save a fair bit.

cheers sammy, will give that a bash, i always thought condor would be pretty expensive though as their framesets are around £600 for the cheapest ones?

they're expensive but the frame are quality, well build, design and pretty light, especially for a steel frame.

cheers sammy, will give that a bash, i always thought condor would be pretty expensive though as their framesets are around £600 for the cheapest ones?

As stated by others its a quality product. The main advantage would be, being able to go in and get some help, plus try stuff out. If you're outside of the average size range, its al that more important to get help with fitting and have a test ride IMHO.

What are you talking about Ed?

are you talking about the compulsory wearing of helmets in cycling races or for recreational use

Ed?

£300 complete. Not mine BTW....

I've just grabbed this for £260 for the missus, so thanks for highlighting this Olly. At 5'1" and 27" inseam, it's been a nightmare finding a decent frame. Should be with me to play with on Tuesday. I can't wait.

Now I just have to get a decent supplier of cheap 650 tubes and tyres.

Ed?

it appear in the recent couple decades that American company seemed to be the one who brought helmet out.

just like helmets only become official when the Amercian introduced them.

was intrigued by your use of the word 'official' - do you mean this in regards to racing or recreational use