UK Championships - Call for Refs

1. C. Norris
   
   

Are we going to have to agree to let the players ref themselves, if you are part of the refs group?

"Double tap, if you feel like it dude"

"light touch" reffing

Maybe Em should ref.

"Punch Him"

Double tap because you suck!

"light touch" reffing

^^ more of this!

^^ more of this!

Shut it, Maxina, you struggle to spell 'rules', never mind read them.

1. Bill
   
2. Andy
   
3. Mike
   
4. Ray
   
5. Slag
   
6. Lebowski
   
7. C. Norris
   
8. Josh
   

Ok.. here is a rough draft of the UK Champs rules, basically a combo of Euros/Karlsruhe:

Could i have comments from the original Ref volunteers please? and is anyone else prepared to volunteer to ref? Ideally i want to arrange a pre tourney ref meeting on Sat morning before we kick off... if not possible we can do it via the forum.

I'd like to draw up a flexible rota of refs for the weekend, we will have 62x 8min games for the initial circle tourney then 7x games for the finals.

** Court:**Indoor Roller Hockey Court 33mx15m (Approx)


Goals:Goals will be netted. Size: 180×80x40cm


Bikes:You can ride any bicycle you like, handlebars must be plugged and you must have at least one brake. A fixed drivetrain equals a brake. Wheel covers are allowed but any defense oriented frame additions are not.


Mallets:Referee will have the final say in mallet safety. Mallet heads should not be made of metal or any material that is sharp and/or could obviously chip, shatter or splinter. The handle end of the mallet shaft must be securely plugged.


Players:Teams will consist of 3 players.

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Start of the Game:**Players will start from behind their goal-line, with their back wheel touching the back wall of the court, with the ball placed at court centre. At the referee’s shout of “3,2,1, Polo!” Any player or players can charge the ball for possession.


Called Goals:Goal is called when ball entirely passes the goal-line.


Shuffles & Hits:A ‘Hit’ is only made from the end of a player’s mallet. A ‘Shuffle’ is hitting the ball with the broadside of the mallet or when the ball is being shoved with the end of player’s mallet. An offensive shuffle does not count as a goal. If the ball is shuffled into the goal by the offensive team, the defensive team gets possession of the ball. If a team puts the ball into their own goal in any way, it is a goal for the opposing team.

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Ball Joint and Lobs:**It is legal to lob the ball (’throw’ the ball with the mallet) and/or to travel with the ball using the ‘ball joint’ cupping style of carrying the ball but you cannot score with either method. 


After a goal is scored/resetting the game:After a goal is scored, the scoring team must return to their own half and cannot come back across center court until the ball or any player of the conceding team has come past center court. The conceding team takes possession of the ball. No conceding player with or without the ball can then pass half court until at least two players of the scoring team have returned to their own half, one of these players can be a ‘goalie’ who was already in the goal area. A player is not required to tap out for a foot-down after a goal has been scored but must return to his own half.

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Fouls:**Players must not touch the floor with their feet. Each time a player does foot-down, that player is out of play until tap-out has been succeeded. The player must immediately tap-out and not purposefully obstruct play. Intentionally obstructing play after foot-down will be considered a strong penalty. A possible goal that is blocked by a player out of play due to foot-down is not a goal. Leaning on the goal while playing goalie is not allowed, you have to tap-out. Throwing your mallet is not allowed at any time and will be considered a strong penalty. Overly aggressive behavior such as unnecessary elbowing, grabbing, pushing, punching with hands, pushing or kicking with feet, and head-butting will be considered a strong penalty.

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‘Like’ contact that is allowed:**Non-aggressive body to body, mallet to mallet, and bike to bike. Apart from the fouls listed above. Players are allowed to tap goal keeper’s mallet.


‘Non-like’ contact that is allowed:Body to ball is allowed if the player is sat on saddle, feet on the pedals, hand holding mallet, other hand on bars. If the ball becomes trapped within a player’s bike or person, let player drop the ball.


Time outs:Refs can call and extend injury and mechanical failure timeouts over and above these rules, but is under no obligation. The ref will call game-on when appropriate and if the timeout is unnecessary. Can be called by a player only after a goal is scored. May be called in order to tend to physical injury. Will be limited to maximum five minutes, one per game per team.


Referees and Penalties:Above all, the players have the responsibility to keep legal play on the court. In the case of disputes there is a referee that will be appointed per game. The referees’ duties will be: Call goals. Determine what is and is not a foul that can result in a penalty and what the penalty is for such foul. Keep track of score. Score must be called out after every goal. Keep track of time. Keep track of fouls of players during games. Call injury time outs for major injuries. Respect ref’s final call.


Penalties can be:- First accidentally foul = tap out- Second accidentally foul or first purposely foul = double tap out- Second double tap out = Time penalty- Be removed from the game for a set time (Time penalties: 8 min game = 30 second penalty, 15 min = 45 sec, over 20 min = 1 min) or even permanently.





Tap out in the middle of the court (Both sides)After any kind of foul (except a foot-down), the fouled team gets possession of the ball.


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what you doing Emmet boy?

oh emmet!

too young, too eager, a bit premature...

"A possible goal that is blocked by a player out of play due to foot-down is not a goal." really?

bike safety should include no exposed chainrings. those with double/triple chainrings should have them covered with bashguards, a circular piece of chain, or be running on their outer chainring.

no pass required after ball joints? all indications for the major rulesets for 2010 have a pass requirement

if players ignore a foul call, the referee should have the ability stop play and remove the offending player from the playing surface for a set amount of time or until a goal is scored against their team. there are far to many "selectively deaf" players in reffed games.

and this is probably the wrong place but will there be 2 additional games on sunday of the first round losers to determine the top 6?

but will there be 2 additional games on sunday of the first round losers to determine the top 6?

I think this is really important. If we don't have these games, and we only need 2, then 5 and 6 places, the ones that go to the worlds, will be sorted on goal diference which sort of sucks

"A possible goal that is blocked by a player out of play due to foot-down is not a goal." really?

Really. The ref can penalise the foot-down player (double-tap and binning for repeat offences), but the ref and goal-refs cannot call a goal unless the whole of the ball has been put across the line from a legal shot.

if players ignore a foul call, the referee should have the ability stop play and remove the offending player from the playing surface for a set amount of time or until a goal is scored against their team.

The refs do have the ability to stop play! If I was reffing, and a player refused to accept my decision, I would consider that a strong penalty.

Personally, I think you should have to pass to another player on your team from a ball-joint, not just release and shoot, but I am happy to ref a 'release & shoot' rule.

Really. The ref can penalise the foot-down player (double-tap and binning for repeat offences), but the ref and goal-refs cannot call a goal unless the whole of the ball has been put across the line from a legal shot.

Sorry but no number of tapouts would outweigh stopping a goal in my opinion. Refs CAN call shots blocked by dabbed players goals, you just don't think they should. I've posted before my suggestion that an offending goalkeeper in these circumstances be removed from play until a goal is scored on their team, but I don't know if we are ready for such a drastic rule implementation. The consensus seems to be that last years rules are best because they offer the least potential for debate

My problem with that rule is that it infers that if a player ball joints the ball AT ALL he must pass before a goal can be scored...

"If ball is cupped up to goals" was the wording, so if a player takes possession of a ball in their own half heads towards the opponents goal and uses a ball joint to get past an opponent or control the ball then continues to dribble the ball and shoots for goal has he "cupped the ball up to the goals?" if not where is the break off point? can he cup up to the D/the halfway line...? I'd rather lose the ambiguity...

Personally, I think you should have to pass to another player on your team from a ball-joint, not just release and shoot, but I am happy to ref a 'release & shoot' rule.

The truth is, everyone is cheating almost constantly.

In my opinion, get the ref a whistle and make sure he uses it.

Penalties for fouls need to be bigger. Tactical fouling should be severely punished. And those punishments need to be clearer.

If a tournament states rules, those exact rules must be enforced throughout the tournament, in every detail.

IMO

(disclaimer: this post is not directed at any specific tournament, team or player)

the ref has a Klaxon Buzzer button on the score board that i think shoud get peoples attention...!

Called Goals:Goal is called when ball entirely passes the goal-line.




Refs CAN call shots blocked by dabbed players goals, you just don't think they should.

Not according to these rules (which I had no hand in writing!), they can't.

the ref has a Klaxon Buzzer button on the score board that i think shoud get peoples attention...!

Subtle. Like it.

If ball is cupped up to goals" was the wording, so if a player takes possession of a ball in their own half heads towards the opponents goal and uses a ball joint to get past an opponent or control the ball then continues to dribble the ball and shoots for goal has he "cupped the ball up to the goals?" if not where is the break off point? can he cup up to the D/the halfway line...? I'd rather lose the ambiguity...

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[QUOTE]Ball Joint and Lobs:It is legal to lob the ball (’throw’ the ball with the mallet) and/or to travel with the ball using the ‘ball joint’ cupping style of carrying the ball but you cannot score with either method. 


implies that a player can simply release the ball, and then shoot.