General Election 2010

I reckon Either of the Milibands would make decent PM's.

Its good seeing the 'senior tory' figures getting all hot under the collar on the news though. I feel like they are one step away from saying 'the people don't know whats best for them, we do'

Can still see the tories working with LibDems though, this will just force their hand surely?

If the tories don't get in, will cameron go?

Declassifying pot and banning smoking indoors. Some would say was good.

what you mean, wasting money on the ACMD and never listening to them? "sorry scientists, we know better, anecdotal evidence is much more reliable than your claptrap. shut up. ecstasy is fucking dangerous people! MJ too! oh GOD! run for your mental health!"

banning smoking was good. made it easier for me to quit.

+1

• The demise of pensions (except for civil servants, naturally)
  
• Lack of a referendum on the Lisbon Treaty (though I'm sure we would have been bribed anyway, like Ireland)
  
• Gordon Brown unelected (and his U-turn when he called that election once before after finding out how unpopular he was)
  
  

• Stop and search
  
• fake bacon (PCSO's)
  
• student fees (the poor buggers being in debt to the tune of thousands and then having tremendous difficulty getting a job in their chosen field - I've just employed an aerospace engineer ffs!)
  
  

At the moment we're going to get either a watered-down version of what we've had for the past decade or what we had in the previous decade. Personally I'd rather see a combination of Not Labour ('cos let's face facts - the current Labour party isn't really what Labour was founded on!) and the Lib Dems. Cameron reminds me of a Foxtons Estate Agent - too slick and deeply untrustworthy. If he was made of chocolate, he'd eat himself. And the saucy cunt plans to punish unmarried couples. Prick.

Are we going to have another PM who no one has voted for

Parliamentary election understanding fail. We've never had a prime minister that anyone other than their constituents has voted for.

And the saucy cunt plans to punish unmarried couples. Prick.

Not much change there then..

What was the old saying? "vote labour get tory"

Now it's "vote tory get tory, vote labour get tory, vote lib-dem get shafted by tories"

Constitutionally there's always option 3. Cameron calls new Labour leader and says "fuck this Clegg clown. Let's form a lab-con coalition."

That would be funny.
And really scary.

Hilary Stone for PM. Won't happen, but I can hope.

fixed

You are absolutely right. The problem is that you could say the same about the last Tory government.

I'm not aware that the previous Tory govt (1992-1997) did any of those things.
Even if you're counting from 1979 though that list makes Thatcher look positively benign.

Fuck it's no wonder the public didn't want either of them to win.

What I meant is that Cameron and his cronies plan to cure this "broken Britain" nonsense by encouraging people to get married. I'm not married and it changes nothing about how I feel about my girlfriend. Marriage is made a mockery of by media cunts like Jordan (whom I happen to respect as a businesswoman) but he thinks it will solve all the ills.

MP's are as detached from reality as the Royals.

Anyone who moans about Labour possibly staying in power should also have a moan about the Lib Dems forming any part of a government.

They came decisively third and seem certain to step up as the king makers. How does that work and why should the party that comes third have that amount of power?

Perhaps the most sensible thing would be for the Cons to form a minority government and see what happens. It's very optimistic of me to think it but perhaps that way the coalitions can form on a policy by policy basis instead of a lot of it being decided now in a back room.

I think this sums it all up rather well

http://www.thedailymash.co.uk/politics/politics-headlines/-election-finally-produces-a-result-201005112717/

Perhaps the most sensible thing would be for the Cons to form a minority government and see what happens. It's very optimistic of me to think it but perhaps that way the coalitions can form on a policy by policy basis instead of a lot of it being decided now in a back room.

The Cons know that a minority government of this scale would almost inevitably lead to a low confidence election in October. Compared to the '74 minority government, this is a very different and precarious situation that the Cons are unlikely to be able to capitalise on. They need to play the numbers game and they know it.

The benefit to another election (a summer of expensive campaigning and a lot of small/independants not being prepared to pay £500 to take part) is of little use to them in the current socio-political environment. If it's less than 18 months before another election then the Cons are fucked and they know it. They need to get into power and stabilise politics properly so they need to decide if Cameron is going to suck off Clegg for the slow road to a majority.

True that.

Self interest > Interest of the Country.

I actually think a Con-Lib alliance is best right now - Labor are demonstrating maximum self interest, and minimum national interest with there actions.

I just don't see how a Lib-Con alliance would work?

Lib-Lab have the most in common and would have a majority if they worked together.

Lib-Lab have the most in common and would have a majority if they worked together.

They would still be a minority gov't, wouldn't they?

Its good seeing the 'senior tory' figures getting all hot under the collar on the news though. I feel like they are one step away from saying 'the people don't know whats best for them, we do'

Paradoxically, that is exactly what Labour are actually saying.

They would still be a minority gov't, wouldn't they?

Sinn Fein never turn up so you're looking for an alliance of 324. There's a possible seat coming their way on 27th May so a good chance of currently being on 316. That's a bigger minority than the Cons who are stuck on 306. The Cons will have a hard time getting anyone other than the DUP to throw in with them meaning that they're stuck with a short opposition. Labour already have strong ties with the SDLP putting the current alliance total at 318 and can expect support from the SNP and PC on a lot of issues (327 current total, poss 328). A little bit of horsetrading will garner them more support on minor issues and a chance of debating well on major issues that some Con MPs may support anyway.

The awkward part will come if anyone decides to cross the floor before a next election.

If he was made of chocolate, he'd eat himself.

I'm well stealing that :-)

Interesting point. There are a lot of close constituencies, at the moment, plenty of which swung in the election. Part of this will be down to tactical voting. Another election will see a decline in voter turnout and a bigger decline in tactical voting which will have a big impact on the results.

It's difficult to predict how though as tactical voting carried two main sides. Those voting to block Cameron and those voting to oust Brown. The true politcal demographic of this country is largely unknown, mostly because Cameron can't kill the spectre of Thatcherism and Brown's leadership of a party in charge through a lot of stuff that ostensibly cannot be blamed on them.

I swear someone posted this link www.politicalcompass.org though I can't find it anywhere so maybe I got it from somewhere else.

What interested me was the map of the parties in this general election http://www.politicalcompass.org/ukparties2010. I never appreciated the difference between Authoritarian and Libertarian and was supprised by how close BNP and Labour are mapped.

It could all be cr*p however, but is certainly making me think about things in a different light. Especially the idea of a LibCon government... that makes no sense at all looking at this.

Sinn Fein never turn up so you're looking for an alliance of 324. There's a possible seat coming their way on 27th May so a good chance of currently being on 316. That's a bigger minority than the Cons who are stuck on 306. The Cons will have a hard time getting anyone other than the DUP to throw in with them meaning that they're stuck with a short opposition. Labour already have strong ties with the SDLP putting the current alliance total at 318 and can expect support from the SNP and PC on a lot of issues (327 current total, poss 328). A little bit of horsetrading will garner them more support on minor issues and a chance of debating well on major issues that some Con MPs may support anyway.

The awkward part will come if anyone decides to cross the floor before a next election.

the problem with the rainbow coalition is that the Scots and Welsh nationalists will only give their support with the assurance of something for their area (e.g. extra cash for Wales and scotland) How will it seem for Labour voters in England who will be having cuts in their area to fund nice things in scotland and wales and N. Ireland. I hope a rainbow coalition goes ahead as it would be suicide for Labour as they would be completely over a barrel.

What a state.