Ways not to lock your bike

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That's one of the things I like about Japan - there's no need, even in the cities, for a heavy duty lock.

I used to regularly walk past a Fuji x Obey that was just leant against a tree outside the owners work.

Does anyone know why?

Is it a cultural thing or do they have extremely harsh laws/punishment?

Does anyone know why?

Is it a cultural thing or do they have extremely harsh laws/punishment?

Losing face is a big thing in Japan, being caught stealing a bike would be considered to be very humiliating.

Does anyone know why? PLEASE

Is it a cultural thing or do they have extremely harsh laws/punishment?

ftfy

They are polite.

every bike is registered.

no second hand market.

My time there got quite a few decent stereos (usually electronic goods) that were left out on bin day. The stuff had been upgraded and the old stuff left.

My time there got quite a few decent car stereos

Sounds like a regular working day for a Pole in Germany in the mid 90s. We like to gets ourselves a nice Blaupunkt.

every bike is registered.

and no one wants a nonce bike?

Losing face is a big thing in Japan, being caught stealing a bike would be considered to be very humiliating.

Be great if that view of stealing could be installed into our culture.
I do like the Japanese.

Would be lovely wouldn't it. But until then...

String 'em up! It's the only language they understand!

Does anyone know why?

Is it a cultural thing or do they have extremely harsh laws/punishment?

Both, I suppose.

As said before, petty theft / crime simply doesn't happen because it would bring shame on themselves and their family if they were caught and also the Japanese police are not to be messed with.

If you're arrested in Japan, they can hold you for as long as they see fit and they can be quite nasty.

If you're arrested in Japan, they can hold you for as long as they see fit and they can be quite nasty.

something like 99.9% conviction rate too, japanese courts are somewhat kangaroo.

......As said before, petty theft / crime simply doesn't happen because it would bring shame on themselves and their family if they were caught and also the Japanese police are not to be messed with.

If you're arrested in Japan, they can hold you for as long as they see fit and they can be quite nasty.

The "honour" system in Japan is something to behold. I lived there for 8 months and just couldn't get my head round it.

Have you seen that theft awareness poster with a picture of a guy who has a wodge of readies poking out of his shirt pocket - "this is how a thief sees your MP3 player" or whatever? Well, I saw a bloke on the Tokyo subway carrying his money exactly like that. No fear of theft/mugging.

did you mug him?

No, I was suddenly distracted by an advert for a bank or something featuring two cartoon girls fondling each other's enormous breasts.

I was living with a couple of American guys and they came home with a mountain bike one night.. they were all

"dude! it was on the street unlocked so we thought, like, it's ours!".

I was like

"take that the fuck back were you found it"

They were like.. "dude!"

etc....

Wankers.. All that food to explore and they went down to KFC and Burger King every fucking day.

Easy on the Kentucky talk.

Kentucky talk costs lives

I know some good ol' boys who will be very interested in this

While I was in Japan I only saw the police arrest one person for stealing a bike and the police are serious about their arrests! Guy had just taken a shopping bike (nothing fancy) from outside a library in Kyoto and as soon as someone yelled what had happened two of the Japanese fuzz were straight on the scene and the guy was handcuffed and put up no resistance at all, just hung his head in shame.

It was over a week until I even saw any police in Japan, but that first week was in Sapporo in the middle of winter. Still, their society is so peaceful and honourable. What a great place to live!

It was over a week until I even saw any police in Japan, but that first week was in Sapporo in the middle of winter. Still, their society is so peaceful and honourable. What a great place to live!

I think it can be rather more fun to live there as a tourist or student than as a working citizen. Nobody's mentioned the Yakuza, the still very rigid and emotionally repressed society, the suffocatingly hierarchical workplace and back-breaking work ethic (at least as much about being seen to be working longer and harder - and more obediently - as about the work itself). Many of the things that are most eye-poppingly amazing to us in Japanese society are actually repressed energy venting through the few available outlets.

I've had to work with Japanese businesses and that was hard enough. I'd hate to work for one.

Edit: Oh, and if you know a woman who's travelled in or lived in Japan on her own, why don't you ask her how idyllic it was? Japan is, in it's own special way, very repressed and fucked up wrt to gender. Western women get all that plus the assumption that they are whores.

[ame="http://www.amazon.co.uk/Blue-Eyed-Salaryman-traveller-Mitsubishi/dp/1861977247"]This[/ame] was quite an interesting read about life inside one of the Japanese conglomerates.

Do not want.

I know a woman who went to Japan to teach and ended up returning to the UK early 'cos she couldn't handle the gender stuff. Apparently she was getting blatently propositioned by suits on public transport etc.

Edit: Oh, and if you know a woman who's travelled in or lived in Japan on her own, why don't you ask her how idyllic it was? Japan is, in it's own special way, very repressed and fucked up wrt to gender. Western women get all that plus the assumption that they are whores.

My fiancé is Japanese and she has never complained about Japan as a society. In fact she hates the crime in Britain and has had her bike stolen as well as her Brooks saddle within the last year and can't understand why we live like this. I've never heard her tell a story about the dangers of being a woman Japan, but I know that they have women only subway cars to prevent crime in the big cities. I'm not completely oblivious to the fact that crime goes on anywhere.

My fiancé comes from an average Japanese family (Father and brother both work as civil servants, mother is home maker). She lived on her own in Tokyo for three years, her family were all the way up in Hokkaido. I know enough to make my own assumptions.

The topic of this thread is about locking bikes (or examples of how not to). You can get away without much security on your bike in Japan. Case closed.