Feetbelts vs Powergrips vs Chicagowig vs JOL vs Holdfast

I think RPM is more concerned with the previously bargain-tastic trackie market.

I want to put single straps on my spd-r pedals, but the decent laminated ones are a price that makes me weep with every google.

Actually hippy, I am looking forward to the first set of these straps that appear at the track. Be interesting to see what Davethe rule book says.

Are you allowed SPDs on the track?

Not sure if they're allowed on indoor tracks. Look Keos FTW

Actually hippy, I am looking forward to the first set of these straps that appear at the track. Be interesting to see what Davethe rule book says.

Sorry, about the singles on clipless setup or the double strap setup?

Trust the Velcro. Ill be "rocking" a pair of these as soon as my 50mm velcro arrives..

http://www.wired.com/gadgetlab/2009/08/make-it-velcro-speed-straps-for-fixed-gear-riders/

Im naively hoping for some slightly less ghetto sewing though..

Awesome link, i was trying to find a pattern the other night coz i don't fancy the weight/uncertainty of supply/faff about paying for the JOLs.
I found a fairly good video of the Wig straps showing the construction but i reckon those look easier to make.
Agree with your comment about the ghetto stitching though.
Would running a few lines of stitching across the strap just at the end of the split maybe add a bit of strength?

PS. Iv used spds, Powerstraps, plastic double strap clips and metal single strap clips.
I hated the metal clips, dug into my foot n marked up my trainers.
Powerstraps were ok but only any good for the pair of shoes you set them up for which i found to be a pain. Also i found that they were quite narrow and so dug into my foot quite a bit. I think the diagonal design puts more pressure on the part of the shoe that has lace eyelets than a clip so i found i was getting a bit of pain from that. I liked the minimal look of them though.
Plastic double straps are great, they are what i'm using just now on my Scissor. Lots of support and its spread across the foot so no sore spots. easily adjustable for different shoes and i actually find that shoes that wouldn't fit in my Powerstraps when i had them set up for my Vans Authentics fit in my clips without any adjustment now Only want to change as i'm interested to see if the velcro strap style are better for doing tricks, toe clearance/getting foot out etc.
SPDs, best for performance and distance riding, the stiffness of the shoe makes a big difference to riding in trainers. Limit you to riding in compatible shoes and obv no good for tricks as they would be too hard to get out of. I use these on my geared road bike and my commuting bike (commuting to college so no need to change shoes when i get there).

for me, foot retention for fixed wheel use on the streets is like this from best to worst:

(BEST)
-Clippless (TIME FTW)
-New Straps like Jol, Holdfast, Pinzat etc
-Double straps + Clips
-Feetbelts / Powergrips
-Single Straps and Clips
(WORST)

New school straps (most types) are way better than any other kind of strap, but feel like shit compared to clipless. That said its nice to go out at night and not have to take a spare pair of shoes. So the argos shall keep its pink holdfast.

ah.. I remember Fred Binda leather toe straps were the bees' bollox...

Sorry, about the singles on clipless setup or the double strap setup?

no, the feetbelt type thingies!

whatever crazy james uses is best

http://www.pedalconsumption.com/archives/2009/files/tag-foot-straps.html

The yellow DIY straps are the only ones which don't rely upon a stitched joint to take the force of pulling up/skidding etc.

no, the feetbelt type thingies!

Right, I wondered what you were on about coz I don't remember straps, doubles, clipless being frowned upon back home :)

I run these, pretty similar to the others only difference being they are designed for use with quill type pedals like sylvan's, although I run mine with odyssey bmx pedals with a bit of a squeeze.

http://www.aurora-collective.com/aurora-velcro-straps/

I used to love my double straps & clips but the past few months I have been running home made straps and can't see myself going back. Comfortable and way more secure I feel.

Here is a pic of the latest pair.

Looking good, i'm gonna go shopping for materials tomorrow.
Did you design yourself or use a patter that's available online?

Bit of both, I started with the tutorial on the GadgetLab blog and have made about 6 pairs, improving them every time.

Cool, im gonna go with the basic design of the gadget lab ones, maybe widen them a bit so they fir my Odyssey PC pedals better but i like the ide that it's one piece that goes right round the foot as opposed to stitching the thinner straps on.

slightly off topic but i've been thinking about going clipless but i only have one bike and want to be able to wear normal shoes sometimes so i was wondering if anyone has put feetbelts (or any of the alternatives) on the flat side of a pair of double sided clipless mtb pedals like these ones?

i can't see why there'd be any problem with power grips but if anyone has any experience speak up please!

I like my homemade feetbelts the best, went to the car junkyard and asked some safetybelt and got it for free. I like they are wide so it doesnot hurt and i like they are diagonally over my pedal so i can get my foot out easy when i want to

whatever you get make sure you know it fits your pedals. i.e. power straps don't fir odyssey plastic pedals. I'm finding it difficult to get hold of ant others!!

yeah you can, you just have to buy slightly longer bolts... i had em on my odyssey but did like them, hurt my feet and didnt get enough power but am keen to try some wig's...

If you can get Jol straps, get them. Way more secure than Powergrips, had mine for months and they've stood up to brakeless polo brilliantly. You can get out of them when you need to (although getting into them can take some time because trying to flip a BMX pedal and shove your foot in takes good timing) and they're totally secure.

I still use ATACs for regular riding though.

Five Ten impacts are they best cycling trainer I have ever had, going on 5 years and still looking pretty new. with pinned bmx pedals they stick like tagnuts to a goat's arse. I use them with my ss cross bike, but I reckon with a brake you could run fixed with no real danger if you kept off long downhills.

would straps like those fit a very wide shoe?

Indeed, I do like my Five Tens, only downsides are ability to absorb vast amounts of water and sheer bulk. I've ridden thousands of miles in them, with day rides up to 170 miles, and they still look fine and grip well.

I've tried Powergrips and the Hold Fast but they don't do too well with the bulk of the Five Tens in a 45. I'm waiting on a pair of Jols and also plan on trying another model from 5-10. They recommend the Savant as being lighter, shedding water but still giving a similar level of sole grip and support.

To be honest I don't need straps with the 5-10 for my type of riding, it's only because I keep toying with the idea of trying fixed. I had clipless and hated them, in actual fact between Powergrips, Holdfast and clipless, some fellow web users have done rather well from my penchant to buy first think later!

What's the problem in the wet? Feet slipping out?

Never had a problem with clips and straps in the wet. Or eggbeaters.

not slipping out, spinning the pedal around!

I've just finished a set of those Wired ones - had a play on them on my big boys bmx and they seem sound. Still want some Jol's though.

More pics here: http://www.flickr.com/photos/roryeaglestone/sets/72157623255597423/