Homeopathy

lessman's doing you.

that's a meaty arm.

yeah... hes got a good tan.

did he get his tan from a carton of Sunny Delight?

Seeing that you have obviously looked into this a little, why when they put that thingy on you and it beeps high and low when there is an "imbalance" but with certain "remedies" it calms down and with others it doesn't?

You would have to be more specific to get an answer, beeps and imbalances and thingies are all too vague.

Also what do you do when one of your closest friends is really into homeopathy (her Mum is a registered homeopath), and wants to start having kids, and is making noises about not having them vaccinated and bringing them up on just natural remedies (and by this she mainly mean homeopathy). She already tries to give it to her cats, though you can tell how the cats like that.

I've bitten my tongue for so long, but this is worrying. I'm contemplating buying her a copy of Bad Science and asking her to challenge her beliefs. Though that sound like I'm trying to wean her off religion. Just want her to see sense for the sake of her families health.

Is she healthy?

Maybe we should burn her before she has children.

Also what do you do when one of your closest friends is really into homeopathy (her Mum is a registered homeopath), and wants to start having kids, and is making noises about not having them vaccinated and bringing them up on just natural remedies (and by this she mainly mean homeopathy). She already tries to give it to her cats, though you can tell how the cats like that.

I've bitten my tongue for so long, but this is worrying. I'm contemplating buying her a copy of Bad Science and asking her to challenge her beliefs. Though that sound like I'm trying to wean her off religion. Just want her to see sense for the sake of her families health.

Depending on how much she has invested herself in all this - and it's usually all or nothing - I doubt their is sufficient evidence to convince her that it is a bad idea.

Vee: you're not far from a good idea there.

. . . And then her kids develop whooping cough, measles, mumps and rubella, and pass it onto other kids, with a risk of some of them dying and becoming infertile.

Unfortunately this is already happening, a post Wakefield rise in all the above.

See. Is her cat black by the way? That would be a clue.

Same mumbo jumbo though.

Photoben, her mother is a registered homeopath, was your friend were raised in similar environment as how she would raise her future children?

No one has had a bad experience with homeopathy.

Other than the people who are using it to try and cure some illness instead of actual treatment and get worse because of it.

EDIT: Tiswas said it betterer

and effective medical treatment is ignored in favour of woowoo and magic.

check this shit out...

that, right there, is a fair dinkum, genuine, authentic, honest to goodness Power Bracelet on my mate Moondog.

What's that for? Trying to cure his jaundice?

No problem here.
Have you ever been to a homeopath?
Seeing that you have obviously looked into this a little, why when they put that thingy on you and it beeps high and low when there is an "imbalance" but with certain "remedies" it calms down and with others it doesn't?

I'm with photoben. As I said before my partner is a firm believer, which is fine with me but what happens once there is another...?

Go see a homeopath and you'll understand. I have no clue about this stuff but I'll try to explain.
They use this machine that measures the frequency (or something) by putting this metal thingy on your pressure points. Different points for different ailments or organs etc.
If everything is OK it hovers around the 50mark (there is a scale from 0 to 100 I think) but if there is an "imbalance" it shoots up. This has been surprisingly/annoyingly accurate too.
They then put the "remedies" they think will help on this plate that is part of the circuit and with some remedies it calms down to the 50 mark again and with others it doesn't

There are also more advanced machines where they strap things to your limbs and head to measure multiple pressure points simultaneously.
The reports that come from this thingy are scarily detailed and accurate

Can I look at any data or further information or do you even know the name of the machine ?

Do you know what this machine is measuring the 'frequency' of.

In what way are these other machines 'more advanced' ?

I wish someone would dilute this thread 1,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000-fold so that it would just disappear, with no effectiveness whatsoever.

I don't know if it has already been mentioned, but James Randi visited Finland last month. Randi along with the Finnish sceptical society (don't know if that's the proper word) tried to commit suicide by eating homeopathic drugs. Didn't work out, although they had an ambulance close by if things would've turned out bad.

It good quite a lot of press, here.

I found it fucking hilarious.

A small clip of the event can be found here. Some pretty goddamn bad English, in there.

EDIT: It seems the correct form is "skeptics".

bike curious?

Lol. I'm feeling a little bit bike-curious myself at the moment.

I wish someone would dilute this thread 1,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000-fold so that it would just disappear, with no effectiveness whatsoever.

That would be because you've forgotten to hit it with a stick three times.

Other than the people who are using it to try and cure some illness instead of actual treatment and get worse because of it.

good point.

I don't know if it has already been mentioned, but James Randi visited Finland last month. Randi along with the Finnish sceptical society (don't know if that's the proper word) tried to commit suicide by eating homeopathic drugs.

Yeah, they did one of those in the UK / January this year, a mass suicide by overdosing on massive amounts of homeopathic medicine (I hesitate to use the word 'drugs', for it to be a drug it would need to produce a physiological effect when taken) - amazingly everyone survived !!!!

It was a miracle, which proves that Ganesh exists.

It has to have the ability to alter some part of your metabolism, otherwise it's simply not doing anything. Anything that, taken in the quantities of overdose that those 'experiments' were demonstrating that does nothing (not necessarily kill you) means that the thing they were taking did nothing.

So a drug has to have the ability to kill you to be affective?

No, a drug does not has to have the ability to kill you to be effective.

No one has said anything of the sort.