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The functionality? ok it amounts to the idea that water has a "memory", and thus we "show" the water some "herbs" and the water "remembers" the genetic shape of these useful things, then we dilute it to fuck, drink it, believing it will do us some good. it does nothing, we either think ourselves better or nothing happens at all.
out of interest, if water has a memory, how come it remembers all those "good" "useful" things, and coveniently forgets the huge amounts of excrement and urine that has passed through it previously....funny that....
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To say it is only as effective as a placebo is true, but you should never understate the power of placebos. They have proved very effective in many clinical trials. Homeopathy is bunch of bally-hoo. It has no long standing tradition or cultural significance. It was made up by Samuel Hahnemann in 1796 to make money. It use to take pride in having no scientific basis, as science wasn't very popular at the time and doctors were a bit gung-ho about cutting bits off people. Since people got more interested in their medicine having some science behind it, more and more back story was invented so try to support homeopathy, especially after Avacadro's work actually working out how many molecules there are in things. The good news is that every drop of water on the planet is already a homepathic tincture if you care to work it out. The bad news is it wasn't hit with a little leather strap by someone 'qualified' so probably won't work.
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So, basically, there's not enough matter in the universe to make those dilutions!
this is the dilution "the ingredient which has been diluted, so extremely, that it equates to one molecule of the substance in a sphere of water whose diameter is roughly the distance from the earth to the sun."
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I read that NHS link and was very interested to see it mentioned quantum mechanics. That could be it. Although the historical roots of homeopathy would suggest otherwise. It is too long ago for people to have known about quantum physics yet not long ago enough for something to have been evolved through trial & error.
QUOTE]Please see my comments about inventing back stories. Quantum physics indeed! (Those quarks are Strange you see).
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Surely a troll? Please...must be a troll...
No, it's just DFP who takes an, er, eccentric interest in matters medical. Possibly because, in the 18 months or so I have been on this forum, he has endured the majority of known and a few previously unknown diseases, ailments and maladies. The last I heard he was being treated for polycystic ovaries. Some guys just can't get a break.
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Just found some case studies here:
http://www.classicalhomoeopathy.com/app/casestudies.asp
Plus, I found this BBC article relating to a Horizon programme which seems to hint at some clinically proven homeopathic function over placebo control groups.
http://www.bbc.co.uk/science/horizon/2002/homeopathy.shtml
In 1988, Jacques Benveniste was studying how allergies affected the body. He focussed on a type of blood cell known as a basophil, which activates when it comes into contact with a substance you're allergic to.
As part of his research, Benveniste experimented with very dilute solutions. To his surprise, his research showed that even when the allergic substance was diluted down to homeopathic quantities, it could still trigger a reaction in the basophils. Was this the scientific proof that homeopathic medicines could have a measurable effect on the body?Homeopathy undergoes more tests
Since the Benveniste case, more scientists have claimed to see measurable effects of homeopathic medicines. In one of the most convincing tests to date, Dr. David Reilly conducted clinical trials on patients suffering from hay fever. Using hundreds of patients, Reilly was able to show a noticeable improvement in patients taking a homeopathic remedy over those in the control group. Tests on different allergies produced similar results. Yet the scientific community called these results into question because they could not explain how the homeopathic medicines could have worked.
Then Professor Madeleine Ennis attended a conference in which a French researcher claimed to be able to show that water had a memory. Ennis was unimpressed - so the researcher challenged her to try the experiment for herself. When she did so, she was astonished to find that her results agreed.I really need to watch that programme.
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Just found some case studies here:
I think that site might have a slight bias. Perhaps 'Unsupported Anecdotes' would be a better description?
I don't mean to be cunty, but that people will try not only to sell this shit to ill people, but will also tell them not to try proven medicines is unethical and just plain wrong.
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Just found some case studies here:
Maybe you should go to the Shell website and prove to us how green the oil industry is?
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Just found some case studies here:
Case studies?? Hahahahaha, hahaha.
Try "double blind trials" or "meta analyses".
Hahaha. :)
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Surely a troll? Please...must be a troll...
Yeah, if you find any, make sure to let the NICE know, the homeopaths, and the critics, of course.
Homeopathy: there's nothing in it.
Google "homeopathy where's the harm" for the reasons I think it should not be marketed as medicine. It isn't medicine.
Placebo effect, now that's interesting.
Damn, I hope that was trolling...
edit - functionality? It's somewhere in some cortex inside your head. No pharmacological effects, whatsoever. Brownian motion destroys any sort of structure in the water that could conceivably hold a 'memory'. And they're PILLS for goodness' sake! There isn't any bloody water in them! They're just fucking SUGAR!