Winter glove redesign... ideas wanted

i always thought someone could line clothing with this stuff in between layers of other fabric.

maybe i haven't seen it, but it apperas no one has done it yet. seems ideal for slimline heat retention e.g gloves.

Surely that only works if it's on the outside..............?

i dunno, it's definitely worth having a go, I've even thought about trying it myself.

Don't forget it isn't remotely breathable fabric so your hands will be dripping with sweat in no time.

oh. comfy-soft lining on the inside that won't wear through within a season. and no seams in weird uncomfortable places.

you could perforate it ? anyway it's just an idea.

random idea:

neoprene liner?

wet from body moisture, but warm from heating elements, and wind/waterproof

aaaand.... my snowboarding cloves have plastic clips on them so that they can be stored together and don't get separated. very useful for things that get put away for half a year (or even that fall into the bottom of your very full bag).

The blazewears have the little clips to keep them together when not in use.

random idea:

neoprene liner?

wet from body moisture, but warm from heating elements, and wind/waterproof

Neoprene isn't waterproof. It has to be coated to make it waterproof and to make it thin enough to work as a liner it would lose a lot of the benefit.

Maybe of interest Scott - these guys make great heated gloves

YouTube- Interview with Exo2 Founder Robin Caird

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I look for re-inforced finger ends, both for strength and for additional protection from the cold. For me, its always the end of my fingers that suffer.

To be fair i don't think many people get cold middle of the fingers. :)

Only one set of gloves I trust in the winter, Seal Skins Extreme Mountain Bike Gloves they look subtle and are padded well. Bontrager have a new pair out which have a crabesque look to them, rep came in today, they look warm!

got to emphasize waterproofing, when your riding in a group the spray from other riders soaks your hands.

the newer version of the dents gloves have thumb and finger foldbacks, £16 quid from their factory (was there at the weekend)

got to emphasize waterproofing, when your riding in a group the spray from other riders soaks your hands.

Scott - I find a decent pair of winter motorcycle gloves do it for me. Gloves that are designed to keep you hands warm at high speeds in cold weather, but allow you to control the throttle, clutch, brake, indicators, etc. are going to be more than good enough for cycling in winter. They're not that bulky and have more than enough protection and padding. My Alpinestars gloves have kevlar, carbon fibre and gore-tex, but don't make you feel like you're wearing boxing gloves. Price is an issue, over £100, but I ride a motorbike anyway so get dual use from them. Kind of like this one...

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i always thought someone could line clothing with this stuff in between layers of other fabric.

maybe i haven't seen it, but it apperas no one has done it yet. seems ideal for slimline heat retention e.g gloves.

The castelli radiantion jackets have something similar.

The foil part is a liner that you can remove. You used to be able to get a gilet in the same material. I was going to buy one (twas on sale) but could'nt see myself using it as an outer layer.

My previous suggestion of a flap over mitten section that was streatchy enough to cover either 3 or 4 fingers was nicked from here:

These look removable though. I was thinking of a flip back design. I could see myself the mitten part alot on quiter flatter roads, and then uncovering a gear shifting/braking finger when need be.

Slightly off topic, but I have TT style bar-end shifters on my winter bike. This partly due to the fact that they can be operated with mittens/lobster gloves on.

Good thinking - North Face actually make a glove called the Etip with a silver element in the tips that allows you to use touch screen devices, like the ipod

I saw these on the Gadget show once.
I'm forever stopping to check Google maps if I'm riding a new route, and these would be dead useful.

I like the Endura Deluge gloves, it also has a fullfinger terry sweat/snot wipe!
Cheapest I could find them is here http://www.bonthronebikes.co.uk/356-301209

I bought these for £20 a couple of weeks back. Quite bulky, but if you're not having to use shifters they're fine. Very warm, and you can fit a pair of slim cycling gloves underneath if you want a snug feeling.

As it's now approaching THAT time of year again i think it's time to give you an update on the progress of the heated gloves i mentioned in this thread.
I've been amazed at just how much Blazewear actually listened to the ideas i put forward on how to make their heated 'sport/rider' gloves more cycling friendly.
They really have been a great company to deal with.

They sent me a picture of the first prototype a few months ago to see what i thought and it looked so much better than the original glove.

The production version is now finalised and they are expected to arrive with them on september 3Oth.

Here is what the original glove looked like which i used all last winter...

And here is the new version...

They included pretty much everything i mentioned from both my own ideas and those people mentioned on here.

The most important for me was the inclusion of removable and washable liners.

Next was a generous snot/glasses wipe. They now have a full terry backed thumb.

Another big thing for me was the velcro strap. On the original glove the strap didn't pull against a loop so it tried to spin the glove around as you pulled on it. The new version now pulls against a loop, which makes it easier to pull with one hand/gloved hand.

The elasticated jersey style inner cuff is now gone too and has been replaced with an extended gaitor style cuff with a drawstring end. This means you don't need to try and fit the battery box under your jacket sleeve which means access to the switch is also easier without faffing around with your jacket sleeve, which can now be tucked inside the glove. They also included a small clear panel to allow you to see if the battery light is on.
The battery is now also mounted inside the extended cuff in a proper zip closure pocket instead of the more exposed velcro flap pocket on the original.

Reflective piping has also been added to the back of the hand for visibilty.

They also included a fold back finger tip to allow use of phones without removing the whole glove.

As for the heating side of things, they now have elements in the thumbs too. That means thumb/fingers and back of hands are now heated.
This cuts heating time a bit, but with the lithium rechargable battery pack which i strongly recommend you still get between 3 and 5 hours heating time...usually enough for long rides. To be honest, you rarely need the heat on for the whole ride anyway.

The price for the new glove is £49.95 and they come in 4 sizes. The sizing is made easier to get right with the lengths mentioned on the website.

I've yet to try them out so i don't know if the longer thumb has been included too, but from what i've seen i'm really looking forward to getting a pair, as the original ones i used last year made the difference between being able to ride 4O mile rides at 6am in freezing winter temps and standing at the side of the road with my hands in agony like most years.

I know there are plenty of people who don't see the need for heated gloves, and plenty who will say they're too bulky, or too this and that, but for people like me who have terrible circulation and really suffer with agonising cold hands in winter these really are a godsend.

Blazewear

These shouldnbe great for people with raynauds syndrome

Pretty good to see a company take on new ideas so quickly.