To the rider involved in an accident outside C4 this morning

fair point. being a cyclist, i look properly before crossing streets, making sure not to slow down any vehicles.. i'm sure all other cyclists do that same. it would help enormously if every single pedestrian did the same, too! still, assuming a pedestrian walks out at normal walking speed (and doesn't sprint out), a collision should be avoidable..

where does the law stand on this? i think 'jaywalking' isn't illegal here, so if a cyclist were to crash into and kill a pedestrian, wouldn't the rider automatically be presumed guilty?

ok .. IMO if you hit a pedestrian, you are generally at fault. if a ped steps out behind a car and you crash into them, you either weren't covering the brakes well enough, or you had crappy brakes, or you are a bad rider and need to improve/improve your reflexes, or you were riding too close to left, reducing your maneuvering room...

plus one to lpg here.

even if the peds is completely at fault, there should be enough time, room and braking distance between you and the peds.

Those kind of incident are easily avoided, drivers managed that well in Oxford Street (for example).

I think it's all circumstantial, as there's no clear guidance apart from the advice to look for each other on the road. There are situations you can't prevent - like when a pedestrian runs out right in front of you from behind the parked car/bus. The same when a cyclist shoots across the zebra crossing in front of a car which happens very often.

There are situations you can't prevent - like when a pedestrian runs out right in front of you from behind the parked car/bus.

Here's the thing, you know that right? you know it's very likely that a peds can easily run out in front of you from behind the parked car/bus.

this is where you can compensate yourself in order to prevent such incident from happening.

Yes, and this is the point when taking care slots in.

Ride in a manner that is safe given the circumstances.
Quoting speeds and scenarios at each other is of no us whatsoever. You have to make an judgment as to what is appropriate.

Having said that, I wouldn't be arsing down the outsised of a line of stationary traffic towards an island without thinking "peds, peds, peds, peds".

^^Repped to the max. About to post something similar though not as well worded. Talk of legislation, laws, priorities is a nice excercise; but unless I'm being taken to court I don't really care.

What I hope to do is minimise the liklihood of running into anything when on my bike. I simply don't want to run into a child as it would break my heart; as such the responsibility lies with me as I cannot control the actions of others.

ok .. IMO if you hit a pedestrian, you are generally at fault. if a ped steps out behind a car and you crash into them, you either weren't covering the brakes well enough, or you had crappy brakes, or you are a bad rider and need to improve/improve your reflexes, or you were riding too close to left, reducing your maneuvering room...

if you can not see behind an obstacle and you are passing it, you should pass it at a speed where you can slow down if something were to come in to the road. this is especially true for two-wheeled vehicles, who are smaller, so less visible, and can filter easily and pass in between small gaps - also any collision could easily result in both parties being injured...

yes peds can be annoying stepping out of nowhere, but i think they should always have right of way. the onus should be on the rider to avoid a collision. in the UK, Ped is King, and rightly so.

I remember years ago i was in the car with my dad and out of nowhere a kid runs out from behind a parked van, up onto the bonnet across the windscreen and off the side. My dad jumped out of the car and when the kid looked up at him just said 'sorry sir' it turned out to be one of his pupils from school (science teacher). All the little shits made sure they did their homework after that incident!

Many situations though are unavoidable due to the stupidity of many pedestrians, there was no doubt that all the blame in the aforementioned story lay with the child.

I'm sure the girls were also war veterans

Good fucking point:

Good fucking point:

Easy target. You should be ashamed of yourself.

@ crazy james sorry maybe i was mixing you up with dancing james