The Vegan Thread

Don't know if anyone's in the market for shoes at the minute but Surfdome have the Vegan Dr Marten 1461 shoes down down to £99.45 from £119 and you can knock 10% off that if you sign up to their mailing list.
Just ordered a pair for some job interviews because I don't want to give away the fact that I'm a sloppy bastard until it's too late.

I thought this was interesting:

https://www.theguardian.com/business/2020/jan/31/vegan-fashion-to-come-under-new-100-per-cent-cruelty-free-guidelines

It might affect the potential for the Vegan Society's trademark scheme in this sector. (The trademark scheme is the principal source of funding for the VS.)

Does anybody know of a company that does sleek Macbook covers, padded with a bit of felt?

So like this basically, but vegan-friendly?

This ?

EooCoo Laptop Sleeve,Microfiber Leather Case Cover for Macbook Air/Pro/Retina 13 inch - Brown https://www.amazon.co.uk/dp/B077B3SG2T/ref=cm_sw_r_cp_api_i_OwgqEbEZY0WD2

Thanks for the tip, searching for a padded sleeve though, also not so keen on the double-pocket design.

Don't know if anyone's in the market for shoes at the minute but Surfdome have the Vegan Dr Marten 1461 shoes down down to £99.45 from
£119 and you can knock 10% off that if you sign up to their mailing
list. Just ordered a pair for some job interviews because I don't want
to give away the fact that I'm a sloppy bastard until it's too late.

Thanks! I'm in the middle of trying to decide whether I buy from them, or pop in to a shop so I can sort out sizes (also for an interview). Anyone have a pair? Are they pretty normal sizes? They'd have to fit quite large for me to fit in anything other than a 12.

They fit pretty true to size, maybe very slightly large. I'm an 8 in pretty much everything and wear an 8 in DMs. Could always pop into a shop, try them on and order them online to save the money (if you didn't feel too cheeky doing that).

A Best Actor Oscar speech dedicated to veganism is not really what I expected, but fair play to the lad Phoenix.

Just had the rebel whopper from Burger King. They have really succeeded in making the patty just like I remember the beef ones to be like - grey, chewy and made up of something completely unrecognizable.

I was quite disgusting tbh.

3/10 would not eat again

I've recently been to a couple of vegan places I hadn't been to before.

At Döner Summer, a pop-up at Dinerama in Great Eastern Street, I had a shawarma kebab, which didn't taste even slightly like I remember kebabs, but that's probably no bad thing. It was a very satisfying light dinner. Phung Kay, which I've had at markets before and like, was also there. They change their occupants quite often and seem to ensure they have a couple of vegan stalls; I think Club Mexicana was also there a while back. Most of the stalls were omnivorous, though.

Yeda in Covent Garden is, annoyingly, cashless, but I had exact money and the guy at the till used his own card to make the payment. That was very nice, but as I've decided to boycott cashless things while that's still possible, I won't go there again. It's a shame, as the shakshuka I had was very good.

I just had one of these, and frankly it wasn’t half bad. In fact, would recommend but needs moar topping

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What's your reasoning behind boycotting cashless places? It's not something I've given much thought either way to be honest!

In no particular order:

1. Lack of choice. I prefer paying by cash.

2. Cash is a public amenity. Sure, card payments are also based on the same currency, but I'm firmly convinced that the move towards card-only is essentially driven by large private payment system companies that want to cream something off every transaction. There seems to have been some kind of subtle campaign, quite probably on anti-social media, that's convinced people cashless is cool and modern. It's undoubtedly also been driven by things like contactless cards and 'convenience'.

3. In a similar vein, banks want to reduce their costs for handling cash (much as they charge businesses for banking cash). I don't like the way in which banks have reduced their services, e.g. in closing bank branches or removing cash machines.

4. Economic data. I think it is bad for there to be complete data on transactions. It gets closer (although there is, obviously, still a long way to go) to the monetarists' idea of perfect knowledge of the market. I prefer it if transactions are less trackable.

5. In summary of some of these points, I don't think it's a good idea to make the monetary system more and more abstract; I think you already see this in price lists when businesses list items as 'vegan burger 8' or something like this. It's £8 or $8 or 8€, etc., not '8'. People claim that it's 'more secure' to go towards electronic transactions--I don't believe that for a second. I strongly suspect the opposite is true. I mean, some businesses I've talked to (including on here) said they had been robbed at gun-/knifepoint and other businesses said they'd been burgled for cash left on the premises, but I really don't think the solution is to go 'cashless'. Thieves will merely develop new methods of stealing.

6. Tipping. I prefer to tip waiters in cash.

7. The situation for homeless people is absurd. Many people no longer want to carry cash, and, obviously, that's not the same as businesses going cashless, but they are related. There have been various suggestions of issuing homeless people with card readers so passers-by can give them 'spare change'. I'm afraid I don't think this would work at all (but what do I know).

I'm sure other reasons could be adduced, but those are my main ones.

Obviously, from a vegan perspective there is the issue that bank notes are no longer vegan, and I do understand that vegan businesses may prefer not to use non-vegan cash, but I think there should instead be a move back to vegan cash. (I don't know how likely that is to happen; @mespilus suggested that some feedstocks for plastic production were no longer separated into animal-free and animal-derived ones, as had been the practice for some decades).

That's really interesting, thanks for taking the time to reply! Lots of points I hadn't thought about. The things that first came to mind were points 6 and 7.
I do generally find paying cashless more convenient so tend to do it 9 times out of 10 but maybe I ought to mix it up a bit!

Was just on my way to Spitalfields to try some on before ordering but got soaked. Came home and ordered them online and should be delivered tomorrow. So thanks!

Nice! I'd recommend an extra pair of socks for a few weeks whilst you break them in, but once you have they're really comfy.

I'd forgotten how solid new DMs are, definitely need a bit of breaking in before my mangled, broken foot fits comfortably in, ha ha.

Yeah. I wore then around the flat for a bit, back of the heal will not be happy. but will suffer through them tomorrow during a day of interviews. Then back into some vans to enjoy pints comfortably.

You've literally described my day. Wore docs to a job interview, celebrated successful interview with a trip to the pub and a change into a pair of vans. I promise they get more comfortable! My old, knackered pair are like slippers.

http://thesashadiaries.com/2018/03/28/vegan-korean-cauliflower-wings/

These are crunchy and delicious

https://www.independent.co.uk/life-style/food-and-drink/tofu-meat-environment-vegan-farmers-union-a9330781.html

Hmmm.

Big hmmmmmmm

Oooooooo. Ta

To get the same amount of protein

Isn't that just the point though, you don't NEED that much protein on your plate from one single source (be it meat or tofu)?

His words were incorrectly reported apparently: https://twitter.com/G_A_McAuliffe/status/1227991794186670084