The Vegan Thread

Pea and mint soup:
Cook peas in vegetable stock, add a load of mint. Blend.

It's better then you'd think.

I think this thread has become hideously distended.

Actually, I've found it very interesting, but then, I find all such threads interesting.

If you are 'down the pub'™ and said to your 'mate'™:

"you know the Asians, what kind of belief system are they then ?"

The answer would likely be 'I don't know, Hindu ?'

I think the answer would likely be a clip round the head, and: 'They're not a belief-system, you numpty, they're people. Now get us another round.' ;)

I thought Asians was a gang. Or a band. They're people?

I thought Asians was a gang. Or a band. They're people?

You just don't go to the right pubs.

Yes, but is Ted gay? ;P

That is a very fair point.

convicted bum rapers should be allowed Tofu.

Can I get that on a t-shirt?

The problem here is an equivocation of the word 'belief'.

In common parlance we would use 'belief system' to point towards religious belief.

So we might agree that atheism is a position on a single issue, but I would still not say atheism itself is bound up in a belief system of any kind, there may be some commonly associated ideas, but these are not necessary for atheism, and certainly not themselves a belief system in an meaning of the term other than simply a set of ideas.

To call atheism a belief system is to call being Lib Dem a belief system or a fan of ice hockey a belief system, it renders the word meaningless as it is universally applicable.

Tynan, I already explained this point. The law protects beliefs systems. It does not say that atheism or veganism is a belief system. But the guidance recognises that atheism may be a key part of a belief system for some atheists. To the extent that a person has such a belief system, the guidance suggests it is protected by the Bill.

It does not in anyway set up rights or benefits for persons on a categorical basis.

So the complaint that atheism is not necessarily a belief system is to miss the point, because the law only kicks in where there is such a belief system.

Mosque 2 - the rise of the vegans.

When I refer to gods, I mean the things called 'gods' referenced by both atheists, and theists, I may reference the use of the word 'god', but have no clue as to what it means.

I can happily say the Jews believe in '*7879Hkdlslsips&' - without myself knowing what this thing '7879Hkdlslsips&' might be.

When I used the word non-existence in reference to the hypothetical blue dog I mean it either does or does not physically exist.

By my understanding of Huxley's words, the above statement would be agnostic

Why should gods have to be something that exist or don't exist?

Not 'should', its a case of 'do, they either do exist or do not exist, no one is arguing whether they should exist or not.

A god, need not be proved to have a physical manifestation, but merely a representation of 'something'.

All the Abrahamic religions claim their gods to be incorporeal, having no physical manifestation.

And for these religions the idea that god is merely an idea is a anathema, a real existent god is central to their belief, no god means no afterlife, no morality and so on . . . although in reality I suspect you are factually right and it is just an idea.

"I can happily say the Jews believe in '*7879Hkdlslsips&' - without myself knowing what this thing '7879Hkdlslsips&' might be."

By my understanding of Huxley's words, the above statement would be agnostic

So you consider yourself agnostic about '7879Hkdlslsips&' ?

This thread is awesome, in a kind of bad way.

Bawesome.

for your sake, tiswas, i hope they're showing this film as you dine:

Mosque 2 - the rise of the vegans.

Could one of our resident veg(an / egetarian) recommend a restaurant in the centre of town?

Mildred's, Lexington st. Or Manna, Primrose Hill.

Mildred's, Lexington st. Or Manna, Primrose Hill.

Yeah, Manna is good, one of the chefs rides fixed too, what more do you want.

Could one of our resident veg(an / egetarian) recommend a restaurant in the centre of town?

A bit late I suppose but as an alternative to Mildred's and Manna
Vanilla Black is really good veggie food and if you really fancy pushing the boat out you can try Rousillon which does a fantastic Menu Legumes (nice but pricey)

Next time round, try the vegetarian tasting menu at Texture (Marylebone). A-mazing.

Sooo...Anyone else following the Pogo saga?
As a founder, I have to say I'm terribly amused.

Vanilla black is...well, shite for vegans and people who are not meat eaters on holiday from meat. It's a very typical and boring dairy fest.

Try Saf on Curtain road instead. It's awesome.

saf is the finest vegan restaurant i`ve been too. i had a 5-course last new years eve and it was superb

nice to find this thread, have been vegetarian for the last 10 years.

A nice place in the centre is Tibits, not sure how it fits for vegans but being a purely vegetarian place I bet it has some options!

Sooo...Anyone else following the Pogo saga?
As a founder, I have to say I'm terribly amused.

Were you one of the contaminators?!! I mean, were you one of the co-op when this happened?
I read the statement and skimmed the comments... I guess it's difficult for me to understand what really went on. Sounds like it should've just been sorted out straight away but got neglected and sat in the storeroom for a few months? That's it right?

No, I was one of the people that started it originally.
I've been following it on their internal email list, and I'm still friends with some of the people that were running it.

Your right, that's what happened. And instead of people who were concerned coming together to express their concern and working out how to get rid of the freezer asap, they decided they weren't actually a co-op, they were a direct action group, and their actions made it impossible for the people who have been working/practically living there to stay.

Just read this on london-eating about pogo. Can't say I've ever been or know anything about it but the mention of it here made me look into it. Is the following really the case?

"The locals who were running POGO have all walked out as an Animal Rights extremist group have taken over the cafe. Streetwise Hackney locals have described this move as a diabolical disaster just waiting for police attention and won't go in there any more. POGO was being run by ordinary working class local people who provided an alternative vegan cafe and eveing venue. Recently there was a mass walk out by the Hackney locals running the place and a number of upper middle class animal rights activists have taken over. Hackney has said that it won't be long before the place becomes a "state sponsored honey trap" "

Umm....

"Animal rights extremist group"

adorable!