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• #252
^^I think his parents didn't learn him properly.
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• #253
you need to articulate if you're a yoof working in telesales
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• #254
A guy who works for ups who collects and delivers our trainers for mail order had the whole of his forearm slashed to the tendons a few months back. This only happened because he blocked his face, otherwise, they would have slashed his face, potentially blinding him. He couldn't work properly for a few months. That's sick and they deserve death. This was in kentish town by the way, another scum area.
if you're actually advocating killing another human being then you need more evidence and argumentation than that. seriously, you're as fucked up as whoever slashed this guy's arm. moreso, in fact.
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• #255
fuck off
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• #256
if they are willing to kill someone, they should be rid of. stic your bullshit politics up your fucking arse.
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• #257
The view that all of this stuff can be reduced to 'accent' is staggeringly simplistic.
I don't think anyone is suggesting that accent is the sole problem - I'm certainly not. It's more an easily recognisable signifier for cultural identifiers which most people on here take for granted.
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• #258
if they are willing to kill someone, they should be rid of. stic your bullshit politics up your fucking arse.
But by saying that you're stating that YOU'RE willing to kill someone too. Should you be got rid of?
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• #259
^ I think it has something to do with believing you have the moral high ground. There's a lot of that going on.
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• #260
No it's erradicating scum
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• #261
fuck me
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• #262
I just realised who you are slaytanic, I called you a fakenger once outside proud in camden and you had the most delightfully pissed off face I've ever seen, waggling fingers at me and such. I must say you take fakenging to next levels. Sorry if this comes across as a personal slight, and is unrelated to the topic at hand, but you are chatting such utter guff that I'm glad I've ascertained who you are, as it makes it clear that your posts are the driveling rants of an imbecile, rather than the genuine opinions of a bitter old bastard.
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• #263
Has the server fail led to this place becoming the Daily Mail Comments section?
Some of these comments above have put me right off this place.
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• #264
I've taught at Cambridge, and I currently teach at a good university in London, in a very 'middle-class' subject. The intake is 60% privately educated kids - in fact it might be more now. Every single academic is aware of the problem. What you are up against is nothing so simple as 'accent', but a sort of middle-classness that, when lacking, is explained away as kids 'not really fitting in', or being 'inarticulate'. At interview, the very attributes you are looking for - articulacy, evidence of wide reading, a certain confidence in the way they speak about the subject - these are hardwired in to kids from privileged backgrounds, kids with books in the house, kids whose parents encourage them from an early age to participate in culture. The academics know this, and struggle really hard with the inbuilt prejudices we all have - what management consultants bang on about in terms of the attraction of sameness. The view that all of this stuff can be reduced to 'accent' is staggeringly simplistic.
^ This reminded me of that Ch4 program about race and IQ, they came to the conclusion we can all succeed but its down to the environment in which we live and learn. a child from a bog standard state school has the ability to achieve good grades and become what ever he wants, many choose to hang around in gangs and speak lik dey is on da hip hop mtv channel init ya know. but a lot don't. a lot don’t hang around parks in the evenings looking for teenage buzzes, a lot take up after school classes or government/council run initiatives and play sports/music/theatre. Some read books in place of playstation, talk in place of shouting and hitting.
I refuse to believe a kid who is born in poverty doesn’t have a chance, from what I have been exposed to I have seen parents who know no better, bitter angry and owed. Kids got no hope.This accent bull works both ways, I could never get a job in voice over’s as I am not a Geordie, the jury is out; I think its fair to say you need an idea of what was said in the interview over how it was said.
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• #265
why don't you just get hit by a lorry you cunt
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• #266
Has the server fail led to this place becoming the Daily Mail Comments section?
Some of these comments above have put me right off this place.
come on in Snowy, the water is fine. don't forget to bring your "Free Tony Martin" T shirt
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• #268
cause I'm too fucking brilliant at cyclin and that
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• #269
is you brilliant. ace
hold on while i pop this in the popcorn thread.. BRB X
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• #270
why don't you just get hit by a lorry you cunt
I'm just quoting this for posterity and its steaming turd like ignorance. Then I'm going to eat lunch and ride round the park in the sunshine.
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• #271
the gang gave up and started to run off in to an estate i chased and grabbed one but they all ran back when he shouted so i had to let him go.
You're lucky to be alive then. I've seen many times how it works - loads of kids would spill out of the estate (most of them wouldn't have any idea what's happening) and kick the shit out of you. Some would be as young as 9. Perhaps few would stab you... It's just not worth it when you have to deal with minors.
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• #272
you call me an imbecile when spurt all that dumb fakenger bullshit? Are you some higher than thou courier? You're just as bad as these cunts, trying to intimidate someone by suggesting they have their bike as some kind of accessory, piss off.
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• #273
I refuse to believe a kid who is born in poverty doesn’t have a chance
Of course they have a chance, but success from poverty is much more of a lottery than the odds you get at the other end of the privilege spectrum*.
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• #275
Of course they have a chance, but success from poverty is much more of a lottery than the odds you get at the other end of the privilege spectrum*.
go on? you saying its down to teachers at your local school etc?
from a very quick google:
http://www.highbeam.com/doc/1G1-180914730.html
http://www.thestar.co.uk/news/Job-snub-due-to-my.5681405.jp
http://www.manchestereveningnews.co.uk/news/s/1118779_teen_quits_over_salford_accent
http://www.thesun.co.uk/sol/homepage/news/article2158917.ece
and there's probably a whole load more examples if i could be arsed to find them.
...plus there's dozens of websites on voice coaching that say having a non-regional/middle-class accent will help you at job interviews.