Android phones, apps and tablets

Moto G?

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Thirded. Tesco have had them discounted for the last week. They sell out, but have come back into stock at least once. The 8GB is £99, the 16gb is £129 (trade in clubcard points if you have them to reduce further).

Worth mentioning that the Moto G only comes with a USB cable, but not an actual charger. Any USB 5v ~1.5A charger is fine though

Cheers.

Out of curiosity can you use them without a Google account?

In theory you can. But if you want to purchase anything via Google Play then you need a Google account.

In terms of value for money, then the Nexus 7 is the best bang for buck out there, mainly as Google sell them for close to cost price, so you're getting higher quality hardware (battery, processor, screen resolution) for the price.

Cheers.

Is the LTE so you can use mobile networks to get online rather than wi-fi? And I assume you'd need a SIM for whichever country you are in?

Yes and yes.

http://www.novatech.co.uk/products/tabletpcs/tabletpcs/nov-tab7w.html

£50 Android tablet.

that tablet is ridiculously cheap, anyone own one?

Seems roughly around a Galaxy S1 spec, but bigger.

With double the RAM.

"1.2GHz Processor"

Single core, and probably a basic ARM version, not the media-hungry ARM Coretex-A[number] you get in top-end phones.

Galaxy Ace:
Chipset Qualcomm MSM7227
CPU 800 MHz ARM 11
GPU Adreno 200

HTC Dream:
Chipset Qualcomm MSM7201A
CPU 528 MHz ARM 11
GPU Adreno 130

Galaxy S i9000
Chipset Hummingbird
CPU 1 GHz Cortex-A8
GPU PowerVR SGX540

tl:dr; Second-hand high-end phone trumps current low- to mid-range phones.

Check out the screen resolution too.

So is everyone saying that that one is probably worth buying?

Thirded. Tesco have had them discounted for the last week. They sell out, but have come back into stock at least once. The 8GB is £99, the 16gb is £129 (trade in clubcard points if you have them to reduce further).

Worth mentioning that the Moto G only comes with a USB cable, but not an actual charger. Any USB 5v ~1.5A charger is fine though

Cheers. A cursory look at second hand phones at lunchtime makes this by far the best deal. I have a few club card points as well!

Edit: Is this easy to unock?

So is everyone saying that that one is probably worth buying?

It's £50, but personally I think it'll be noticeably underpowered. If I was buying a 7" Android tablet this Christmas I'd get the Nexus 7.

^ Sage Advice

So stuck as to whether to get mum an iPad mini (non retina) or Nexus 7. Looking on ebuyer nexus 7 can be had for around £169 which is £30 off at the moment.

Is the iPad any better/ easier to use? I know I'm asking this on the android forum.

Everyone recommending nexus 7 to Hugo is ignoring the brief. He wants expandable storage.

How much of a requirement is that? Lots of people want expandable storage and then do just fine without it. Depends how important it is, innit. :P

So, uh let's ask him.

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Hence my question.

He's got a keyboard. No one is stopping him.

Anyway, Hugo, your requirements are wrong, buy the N7.

He may be fine with the hudl. S'cheaper.

Had a total fucking stressfest last night.

I installed the rooted n5 port of 4.4 onto my n4 last night which somehow lost my root. Then it turned out I needed to update Super SU. Did that, still no root. Then I spent about 1.5 hours working out how to manually update CWM Recovery to 6.0.4.3 because I read that for the root to work on the n5 port I needed to do that.

Having been so long since I rooted my n4 I was really rusty and couldn't get anything to work. So I eventually settled on just rooting all over again but the drivers wouldn't install on my Windows machine.

As a last ditch effort I used fastboot to get it into recovery mode as Rom Manager wouldn't boot into recovery mode and there's not an option on the power menu on stock roms (obvs) and I just re-installed the rom, Super SU and CWM Recovery. Lo and behold it works. Use root checker and it's rooted, but it tells me that it's slow. I use the phone a bit, restore some backups from Titanium and it does feel a little slow.

Decide to install the rooted n4 version instead to see if it's faster. Boom. Loads faster, but it's shit by comparison. The n5 launcher is so much nicer, but slower. Neither are perfect, just going to go back to a custom rom.

TL;DR - rooted stock roms defeat the point and are shit.

CSB

your requirements are wrong

Typical dev

@NurseHolliday - Cyanogenmod.

Is there a 4.4 version of CM? I just wanted to try 4.4, was not worth the effort.