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  • ...over 30% of modal share in many cities. We haven't managed that anywhere here...

    out of interest what's the share in the best-known cycling towns here, like Cambridge or Oxford?

  • Cambridge is the highest, 28% last I heard. Oxford and York somewhere a little under 20%.

  • Just in: TfL's Steve Norris said that Boris is wrong about Elephant and Castle;

    http://www.london-se1.co.uk/news/view/5652

  • Steve Norris for Mayor??? He was a tory car dealer, when he was a minister for Transport we took him for a ride around London. One of the results was the National Cycling Strategy 1996. It set a target to quadruple cycling by 2012. In London it has almost tripled.

  • Gosh multi groves are an angry young man wishing death on others and angst filled posts like this.

    You really do have a penchant for the brown stuff, eh?
    I'm simply bored of deaths coming from the same vulnerable section. It'd be interesting to see how deeply entrenched that inertia really is when this kind of tragedy is brought closer to home.

    I wish I could be just like you and feel no sense anger at what have been utterly preventable deaths- especially against the backdrop of those in power paying lip service, telling us to get out of our cars/telling us how much monies have been spent painting roads blue/the police perceived inactivity towards reports of dangerous drivers/TfL's dishonesty regarding the dangers of certain junctions that experts have warned would result in death(s)/ a refusal by the haulage industry or the dept for transport to add simple cameras, to stipulate a minimal amount of mirrors irrespective of how old the vehicle is or where ever in Europe it's come from before entering dense URBAN roads/ or to ensure drivers have a basic amount of rest and are able to grasp basic road signage.

    You have no idea what it's like to leave this world via a HGV. A friend was unfortunate to witness this and required counselling for months afterwards.

    I wonder how glib you'd be if it were your best mate? Maybe you could hold up a mirror and proclaim: "Has it ever occured to you that busy urban streets are not meant for cyclists?!"

    Possibly for an encore you could turn up to the funerals and tell the now fatherless/motherless/loverless/brotherless/sisterless/friendless grieving ones:

    "Has it ever occured to you that busy urban streets are not meant for cyclists?!"

    Oh you dropped this "r" (it's occurred)

    Maybe you could do talks to rape victims about taking their blame in wearing skirts?

    honestly>>>>>>

  • Has it ever occured to you that busy urban streets are not meant for large goods vehicles?

    Fixed.

  • I have put together some comments on behalf of TABS regarding this.
    I known it's tl:dr but if you have a chance to look and comment and make any suggestions there is time this week before I forward this to TfL

    Cycle Safety Action Plan
    (see - https://consultations.tfl.gov.uk/cycling/draft-safety-action-plan)

    CASP 2 draft feedback

    General points additions and amendments:

    p1
    Cycling promotion:
    While safety is and should be at the heart, cycling promotion should
    also be explicitly stated from the outset. Promotion of active travel
    needs to be stated and be included in the 6 road safety commitments to
    include a target for increasing trips by bike. While this may not seem
    a pure road safety commitment more people cycling (and walking) and
    the effect of this in getting drivers used to sharing the road with
    cyclists helps greatly to improve road safety.

    (front cover)
    With a view to promoting cycling and taking into account the current
    lack of any legislation regarding the wearing of helmets we think that
    the images on the front showing every person on a bike wearing a
    helmet isn't balanced or realistic. Change the front cover to show a
    mixture of helmeted and helmet-less cyclists. (images throughout the
    rest of the doc are more balanced)

    p4
    Vulnerable road users (VRUs). While it is easy to categorise people
    out of cars as VRUs and to focus the CSAP (and MCSAP/PSAP) on VRUs we think a better focus and more in line with a general harm reduction is to prioritise actions around the groups which CAUSE the most
    harm rather than the current focus on people who get harmed. This
    would create a significantly stronger document and send the message
    that people liable to cause harm need to be managed and therefore
    there needs to be a stronger emphasis on driving skills and
    enforcement of bad driver behavior. This point doesn't negate the need
    to up-skill cyclists at all but recognises that a mistake by a cyclist
    or pedestrian is much less likely to harm other people whereas a
    mistake (or recklessness by) a driver is more likely to harm others.

    p6
    So based on the above comment we believe that this document should
    start with a focus on the people who cause the harm rather than the
    victims. On p13 there is an analysis of who kills or seriously injures
    cyclists which is good. On page 16 there is an analysis based on
    evidence as to what drivers do that kill or seriously injure cyclists
    This analysis is good and actions in the CSAP need to focus much more
    on what to do to minmisie the source of the KSIs whic are mainly
    driver behaviours.

    For example 10% of KSIs are caused by drivers opening their car door
    in the path of cyclists -while clearly cyclists should be and are
    taught to ride away from car doors (and may get beeped and scared back
    into the car door zone by drivers who don't understand why the rider
    is in the middle of a lane), focusing on drivers teaching them to
    check before opening their doors AND helping them understand why
    riders ride away from car doors, is a much better evidence based
    action likely to lead to fewer incidences of car-dooring.

    p9
    The comparison of fatalities per million population doesn't take into
    account of the number of miles traveled by bike so having fewer
    absolute fatalities compared with Amsterdam is pointless. This could
    lead to a conclusion that in order to have fewer fatalities we need to
    have fewer people riding! This is why a cycling promotion target is
    important.

    p10
    As per above the link between more cyclists and fewer casualties must
    be made and prioritising the reduction of harm would inevitably lead
    to improved safety. It is important to know who is being injured but
    even more important to know who is doing the injuring, where when and
    how, in order to mitigate it happening.

    p13
    In the spirit of the comments above who causes the harm should be the
    main focus. It would also be useful to include cycles in that table to
    be able to assess to what extent cyclists are the cause of injury to
    others and the ratio of cycles involvement as a ratio of modal share.
    (I suspect cyclists harming other cyclists (KSI) would be pretty low
    which would therefore lead to more focus on groups with a high ratio
    of involvement. (The ratio for cabbies (4) is astounding and should
    lead to TfL prioritising actions to mitigate harm this group causes.)

    p16
    Referring to action 23 in chapter 4. There is no action here about
    driver skills and checking before opening doors.

    p17
    Good point about driver inexperience but not followed through to
    actions on this point. Action 13 is about technology and action 19,
    while better and about vru awareness in HC revisions and driver
    training there needs to be a TfL action about driver skills.

    p20
    The note about contributory factors shares responsibility equally
    between drivers and cyclists. A much better moral position should be
    to apportion more responsibility to those able to cause more harm as
    in many European countries.

    p21
    Is TfL proposing therefore to gather evidence as to what experience
    cyclists require to build up skills for riding on urban roads. What
    about evidence looking at whether drivers who are cyclists are better
    drivers

    p22/23
    Regarding operation Safeway and exchanging places. There needs to be
    more emphasis on the balance here. Some in the cycle community see
    this as targeting cyclists and some officers offering their personal
    opinion regarding PPE. So for example a rider is pulled over while a
    driver on their mobile passes by unchallenged. The SUD element of any
    exchanging places should be extended to taxis and other vehicles and
    priorites over getting cyclists in the cab of a lorry.

    There is a strong case for a driver safety (harm reduction) action plan DASP

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