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  • 58cm Trek District would give you ~60 cm between BB axle and front hub.

    I'll measure the K tonight and see what it gives..

  • I was thinking more along the lines of Computrainer or Velotron so I can stare at a computer screen of pretend trees for 4+ hours.

    For shorter power-based interval training stuff I'd just use the CycleOps outside like normal. Too hot and sweaty inside.

  • Saying that, I now realised that the Pearson Hanzo with it's slack 71.5 headtube could be idea to avoid toe overlap.

    Do you know what its BB to front axle distance is?

    pictures myself riding road bike with 20mm stem

  • I was supposed to book our work Christmas lunch at Tayyabs but forgot and obviously it's now booked up... any recommendations for alternatives around there? (Aldgate/Whitechapel way)

  • Cafe Spice is always nice.

  • Looks good, though possibly a bit pricey as I work for a charity so we have to pay for it ourselves... anyone know anywhere similar but mains around £7-11ish?

  • Lahore Kebab House. It's where you went before Tayyabs

  • Does anyone know a cheap source of sparkling white wine for NYE?

    I need enough for c.30 people - so 15-20 bottles. But cheap, and not horrible. I'm basically looking for the Torm of sparkling wine.

    Prosecco or Cava.

    Cheers. That was what I was thinking, but I was more after any secret tips of where to score cheap deals on the stuff.

    I guess just price matching supermarkets.

  • Keep walking around and checking supermarkets... I always stock the house with Cava when we are having a party - if you are lucky you can find reasonable (read: really very reasonable) bottles for five or six quid. I'm going to go look now.

  • Or this one, which is a site which checks all the other supermarket sites: http://wine.mysupermarket.co.uk/#/Shopping/FindProducts.aspx?Query=cava

    I love it when there is loads of bubbly around. Everyone gets so drunk. Use it to make tequila slammers for extra fun/puking.

  • For an extra pound I'd go for Codorniu.It's like a decent OTP fizz.

  • ^ Extra penny. Agreed.

    Edit, as in the cheap stuff on my link is £5.99, jaw's link has the Cordoniu is £72 for a case of twelve I assume, or £6 a bottle. Extra penny.

  • I'm about to order Shimano dual pivot calipers and notice that it says they "Must be used in conjunction with ST-4600, ST-4603, ST-5700, ST-5703, ST-6700 or ST-7900 STIs for correct leverage ratio". Is this true? Or is it the same as the recipe instructions on my Sainsbury chicken, "baste with Sainsburys butter, stuff with your favourite Sainsburys stuffing and place in a pre-heated oven"? That is, bullshit?

    They changed the actuation ratio in the latest round of upgrades- (from memory) they reduced the mechanical advantage of the levers and increased it at the caliper.

    This means that old style Shimano, or any SRAM or Campag levers when combined with the new calipers are, in Shimano's view, "too strong".

    Basically, you'll have more power but less modulation I think.

    Basically, yeah - the pull ratio is different. They tend to end up a bit grabbier when used with most other road levers, especially the rear brake. However:

    I use 7900 levers with another manufacturors brakes and they're fine, that said.

    This way round is usually fine and less noticeable, but you would probably get better performance with the 'correct' matching brakes.

    FWIW I run a 6700 front brake with a conventional lever because I like the extra power, especially from the hoods. It's a teeny bit harder to modulate at low speed but it's really not a problem. So it depends on your setup. If you're running a rear brake you might lock-up a bit too easily.

  • I'm hoping to further complicate matters by going to 28mm wide rims.

  • cheers all.

  • I'm hoping to further complicate matters by going to 28mm wide rims.

    700c x 23c - 181g

    700c x 32c - 232g.

  • I would go with what shimano say's, as they tend to be very good at making things that are not compatible with their other things.

    I use 7900 levers with another manufacturors brakes and they're fine, that said.

    This way round is usually fine and less noticeable, but you would probably get better performance with the 'correct' matching brakes.

    ... and other responses above....

    Some say "yes", some say "no" and some say "maybe". If I did decide to go with some matched levers, what can I get which are not STi levers. All the ones they have listed are STi, and I have already installed downtube shifters, so I am only looking for brake levers. What has got the same pull?

    Non-Shimano would be fine.

  • 700c x 23c - 181g

    700c x 32c - 232g.

    Those are a) clinchers and b) too large to fit.

    Go and stand in the corner.

  • Hugo, do you know anyone with cash and carry memebership? You can get soe cracking deals on booze at Makro or Costco

  • ... and other responses above....

    So, if I did decide to go with some matched levers, what can I get which are not STi levers. All the ones they have listed are STI, and I have already installed downtube shifters, so I am only looking for brake levers. What has got the same pull?

    Non-Shimano would be fine.

    There aren't any made to match, I'm afraid. It's only the newer Shimano groupsets using that design and of the non-STI levers they make (R400 / R600), neither has the matching pull. I wouldn't be surprised to see them make some at some point for the touring market (who like bar end shifters), but then they may just continue the 'old' R450/R650 deep drop callipers alongside the 'new' R451/R651 (I haven't seen the R651 yet, but I think they exist).

    I think you'd have to change brakes if you wanted to be sure it would all match - which ones have you ordered? You could just try them and see how you get on, although I appreciate it could end up costing a bit to swap them off for a different set if they're too grabby.

  • Well, I won't be buying any levers right away - I have some old Exage levers to play with, so I will find out how grabby they are. I have to say I do like them quite grabby in a sense - I generally set up my brakes to bite as soon as I touch the levers. I will see. Thing is I had a rear 4500 caliper, so just bought the front (a 4600) to match. £20. In fact, I could not see any Shimano calipers that did not say they needed that set of matching STi levers. At Wiggle that is. There are other brands of course.

    If it works I can buy some nice levers.

    If it is grabby I will either get rid of the brakes and get something with less specific compatibility requirements or dab a little grease on the brake blocks to smooth things out.

  • 4500 rear and 4600 front should be fine - the rear would be more likely to be the one that gives you trouble. Like I said, it actually sharpens the front braking up in a way that I quite like.

  • Oh, will the 4500 not have the increased mechanical advantage? I didn't realise they were that different...

  • No, 4500 is the 'old' design. They changed it on Tiagra when it went 10-speed. 105 changed with 5700, Ultegra changed with 6700, Dura-Ace changed with 7900.

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