Touring Equipment

that'd be fantastic Scott! if I could get it off you sometime that week following the dynamo that would be ideal. pm'd to organise.
:)

Why is finding luggage so fucking hard?

I can't find a decent sized rack/ saddle bag fit for purpose?

I'll just use my mums creek 2 peak rack pack for the DD, that seems like the perfect bag for me, which I can easily attach a lightweight tent to the top of.

http://www.guardian.co.uk/travel/2011/jun/29/mountain-cycling-camps-france-alps-pyrenees

I know it was posted some few pagas back, but I spent the last two plane flights reading it (it turns I had it saved to the Instapaper) and it's very inspiring:

http://ultralightcycling.blogspot.com/

I'm suddenly stupidly serious about keeping the weight down for the Lake District ride, especially when the first legs is aimed for 140 miles.

Decided not to take my tent and buy the same one he have.

As pre Scott's instruction, I'll be posting lots of photo of my bike + gears.

And none of ya 'chinese politicians' style photos of you supposedly in front of some road in the lake district either! ;]

Ed please let me know how you get on with that tent I'm close to buying it myself.

oh I'm going to buy an ortileb large saddle bag too. serious light weight touring!

I'm suddenly stupidly serious

Ed! You've changed! :)

Okay, prior to scott's request, this is what I have planned insofar for the Cumbria ride (Dan did the map).

The first day will be 220 kilometres to Derby, which is why I suddenly become more aware of the item I'll be carrying, I need to average 15mph.

The good news is that it's only 3 days, which mean no need for camping stove, extra "evening wear" clothes (which is basically a kaki trouser and crumpled up shirt), spare part (like extra battery for light).

The bad news is that I'll be carrying some hefty photography equipment to documents Dan's ride to the Lake District, if I were to documents it, I need to do it properly, and of course, the headband that MotherGirl want me to wear.

The Moulton have the necessary luggage minus the handlebar bag I've yet to get, it also a perfect fast touring bicycle being able to carry the weight vertically instead of having panniers;

Cutting down equipment was surprisingly easier than I though, I've already done such thing in the past, such as bringing one spare inner tube, and insert all the patches inside the inner tube, then wrap the tyres lever/glue on it;

Pump is a trusty Zefal, I said 'trusty', this is the 3rd one, but they were the cheapest and lightest pump money can buy (85G).

Lock is another concern, I'm not taking the Evo Mini as despite it's strength, weight too much, so I'll be taking this alarmed padlock and the skinnest cable out there, not strong but the 120dB should be a deterrent enough.

Still hasn't finish packing though, so will post more soon.

Your Zefal pump reminds me of Trigger's broom.

And Ed, remember you're not that far from home and still in the UK. Don't take too many spares and tools etc. There are forumengers all over the place.

That's precisely the point: I'm in the UK, ample number of shop that stock the necessary part (okay maybe not carbon Campagnolo derailleur and 10 speed chain), so no need to carry even a packed lunch when a pubs along the route will serve us a bigger and better meal.

The shit part is, if you want to stop at the pub you really need a proper lock, and they're heavy.

not so if it's alarmed, slight touch (me and dan will lock the bike together) and it'll blare as well as putting it in plan view.

Cutting down equipment was surprisingly easier than I though, I've already done such thing in the past, such as bringing one spare inner tube, and insert all the patches inside the inner tube, then wrap the tyres lever/glue on it;

You realise that inserting the patches inside the inner tube , then wrapping the tyre levers and glue on it doesn't make them either invisible or weightless right? :]

Cutting down equipment means leaving things out, not attaching them to something else. :]

It mean that the package size will be smaller, rather than lighter, which is also the key point, it keep thing neatly in order as oppose to being loose inside the bag.

haha...It doesn't make it smaller either. :]
I'll let you have the 'keeping things neatly in order' bit though. :]

What's your tip in making it smaller? all I can think is to make do without the inner tube and find a way to keep the lever, glue and patches together.

You can't make them smaller than their actual size. :]
But whether you have the patches inside the tube, outside the tube, on the top or bottom of the tube...same with the glue and levers, attached or not...they'll still take up the same space silly cucumber.

Personally I wouldn't take glue AND patches....I'd stick with self adhesive patches if you want to travel light and conserve every bit of space.

You can cut everything in half.
Or take self-adhesive (they're bit touch and go, but should see you through).

But seriously, after reading that "lightweight touring" blog it's all about cutting down on stuff as everything adds up at the end. Personally I'd rather leave razor behind than fresh dry pants.

If it's only three days there's big chance you'll either use the inner or the patch. Or none.

You can cut everything in half.
Or take self-adhesive (they're bit touch and go, but should see you through).

But seriously, after reading that "lightweight touring" blog it's all about cutting down on stuff as everything adds up at the end. Personally I'd rather leave razor behind than fresh dry pants.

I'd also rather take a lightweight saddle bag than a carradice PLUS a bagman supporting rack too. But then i'm funny like that. :]

I like self-adhesive as it's a great way of getting a quick fixed to get you home, but I like to able to permanenty repaired the puncture and feel that I fixed it properly (if I found the buggering hole).

I may need to take another inner tube, I realised that the fact my wheel is a skinny 20" one mean choice of inner tube may be restricted.

I know you are Scott, you do make better and lighter bag than Carradice.

Not better....just different. :]

Also..I don't think I've seen anybody mention the Salsa 'everything' cages yet?
If you have a spare bottle mount somewhere they're a great way to strap bivvy bags and lightweight tents to the bike...also full size bottles of water...pretty much anything that can be made into a roughly cylindrical shape tbh.

No one had, but fuck me that look amazing;

The great thing is that I think I do have enough room under the Moulton for one of those;