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  • but it's pretty much the same weight/price.

    Do you even weigh?

  • I meant the one that is not the two legged guy is the same weight as the Helinox. I don't really care anyway as I already have two Helinoxes and they are awesome.

  • Would this be crap? have never had a chair in my whole life camping.

    I've used these camping a couple of times, you may as well lean on a pannier or a rock as they don't support you much. They just keep you upright.

  • doingitwrong

  • Sudocrem is great for chaffing and sunburn
    Chamois cream is great for preventing chaffing!

  • I dont know if I would want to use my legs as chair legs after a 100 mile ride... Other than that, the chairs look quite nice and comfortable. If anyone can vouch for them I might consider getting one for my trip..

    The fold-able toaster... Nigga please.

  • I dont know if I would want to use my legs as chair legs after a 100 mile ride...

    I probably just want to lie on the grass to be honest.

  • True that. I'm not bringing any chair or stool on my trip.

    I noticed nobody brings toiletpaper, or everybody forgets to mention... I just thaught of it and I hate that I have to bring ir along, as Ill probably bring 2 rolls, which take up loads of space :(

    Its been 2 and a half week since I ordered my Revelate Designs framebag so it shouldnt take long anymore. Then I can finally start working out my setup and look where I'm gonna stuff the toiletpaper...

  • They're only useful in France due to their excellent lavatory.

    Personally I just buy some tissue instead for those moment where the toliet don't have any paper.

  • hammock instead of tent: yes or no?

  • Debatable, depend on where you're going.

  • Too cold for me vs. mat on ground.
    Also not so good for side sleepers.

  • france, north to south, low altitude, august/ september.
    cant think of any reason why not to go with hammock.

  • Nowhere to string it up?

  • could get one with a frame, but could be a little heavy

  • ^ like a tent?

  • ^^ & ^
    reading people experiences online, seems to be a concern that never materialises.
    this well reviewed tent has a tree margin of 12-25 feet; hence the frame shouldn't really be necessary.

  • That's the one I had.

  • Folding chair is bloody useful when doing stuff like ultra slow cooking on camping stove. If you can get comfy sitting on the ground then I'd skip it.

    Are your tent pegs metal? If so maybe switch for plastic.

    Handwash gel or any liquid washing substance is wasted weight, essentially soap diluted with water. A bar of soap weighs 90g, liquid something like 350-500g.

    Leatherman/Swiss army knife type things suck in my opinion. If you want a knife, carry a knife. If you want some pliers, carry pliers. You could safe some weight doing this and have more usable items.

  • worth the money?
    Explorer Deluxe $220
    Explorer Ultralight $260 (500g lighter)

    That's the one I had.

  • They're quality products, but see above for my experience.

  • These are quite light, and present no pitching limitations.

    http://www.tarptent.com/

  • Was just looking at the tarptents, but they're subject to a waiting list according to the website. Something like this could be useful, pity it's bright green:

    http://www.backpackinglight.co.uk/shelters-1/WF104.html

  • An alternative to Hennesy hammocks is DD Hammocks who also do basic tarps.
    Lightweight tarps can also be sourced from Alpkit.

    I would be concerned about finding correctly spaced trees (or whatever) if relying on a hammock.
    A tarp strung from an upturned bike could be a good solution for the night but would mean unloading the bike each night

  • ^
    cheers, DD well reviewed.
    ~£80 cheaper and ~400g heavier.
    just bought.

    can anyone recommend a front rack equivalent to the Nitto M18?
    i.e. for rack bag not pannieers, and mounts to the fork eyelets.
    want to keep it minimal.

    looking at:
    Nitto M18 (£85)
    VO Constructeur Front Rack (£75)
    Blackburn MTF 1 (£30)
    Vavert Advancer Front Rack (£25)
    Ostend Front Alloy (£20)

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