Friday beers on the river: 16.10.09: Captain Kidd in Wapping

Nice one, Neil... Who'd wanna drink with these morons? Not me, oh no... :|

and i moved the thought into skully's mind, so yeah, moving things..

well. he was wrong. you can use the proper terminology now.

Aren't you a bit old to be dating someone who's still in high school?

i am younger than maxcrowe

What's that lanky streak of piss got to do with anything?

yes, but max is a slacker.

Max=Strawman of this discussion

i never get that analogy.. people always say it at conferences, and it's always followed by a knowing snigger. not wanting to look silly, i snigger along.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Straw_man#Example

Snigger.

(phew)

What time, peoples?

(straw man = reference to the wizard of oz and an argument having no "heart.")

(that's a lie, but if someone believed it, it could result in some hilarious incidents in their future).

i am goign to have some tramp beers at newt and watch dinos and los conos. but on the way over the bridge, i could stop at blackfriars. after purchasing a helmet. so like... 5.30 (not promising though)

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Straw_man#Example

oh see i thought it meant building something up so then you can show how that thing is wrong and your argument is right. building a strawman so you can burn him.

^we'll never see NNY at the Blackfriars

^we'll never see NNY at the Blackfriars

yeh, probably it'll take me ages to make a decision on a helment - "i'm just not sure which one i hate the least'.

but blackfriars is on my way, so you'd at least get a wave.

^we'll never see NNY at the Blackfriars

Just loads of strawmen

oh see i thought it meant building something up so then you can show how that thing is wrong and your argument is right. building a strawman so you can burn him.

That's pretty much it? Except the argument you build up is (either honestly or maliciously, I don't think it matters?) weaker than the actual argument would be.

Is this what you meant?

I didn't really read the wiki article. Maybe wiki knows more than me. Probably.

I bet strawmen are thirsty. I'm tempted to get to the BF now so I'll have a pint when people start showing up.

NNY- Bet you vacilate for ages then buy a catlike whisper.

there will be much hesitation.. they are pricey. and unflattering.

and awesome.

so who will be at BF?

See above.

That's pretty much it? Except the argument you build up is (either honestly or maliciously, I don't think it matters?) weaker than the actual argument would be.

Is this what you meant?

I didn't really read the wiki article. Maybe wiki knows more than me. Probably.

yeh, that's it. i remember it from a seminar on cartography of australia before it was discovered. so pretend australia. his argument was a strawman, i thought. but hey, he has 100 000 words and i have 10 000.