Corporate Evil

@arusbridger
Victory! #CarterRuck caves-in. No #Guardian court hearing. Media can now report Paul Farrelly's PQ about #Trafigura. More soon on Guardian..

ha ha zane that's amazing - looks like the Guardian won this time though - SWEEEET

Ah, the Nuremburg defence. :)

This is no time to talk about football.

Heres one from Oz press today:

http://www.news.com.au/story/0,23599,26207677-1702,00.html

Yuguang Gold and Lead Group
Wanyang Smeltery Group
Jinli Smelting

tbh the guardian should have had the balls to publish it anywayz.

private eye would have!

Yep I did see some MSM publish this before Carter Fuck pussied out. In a way i wish this had gone to court and Carter Fuck were made to fight and hopefully lose. Could've set a legal precedent and maybe made it harder for these soulless fuckers to try and stifle free speech the next time.

Just wondering how a collective entity such as a corporation can be considered 'evil'?

Most people know what my stance is on issues like this, but just wondered if it's a helpful label...?

Could be an interesting debate on personal vs. collective responsibility at any rate...

private eye would have!

they did

Just wondering how a collective entity such as a corporation can be considered 'evil'?

Most people know what my stance is on issues like this, but just wondered if it's a helpful label...?

Could be an interesting debate on personal vs. collective responsibility at any rate...

It might be a simplification to say a whole corporation is evil, but there is definite evil going on there -

who made the decision to offload the toxic waste when they knew the risks to human life? Who, once that decision had been made, subsequently covered it up? who fought the fight to deny compensation for those maimed by the waste? People who put all morals aside in pursuit of the bottom line. People happy to let children die for more money, or to shield and enable those that do so. Evil-doers. And evil-enablers.

Is the receptionist at Trafigura evil? probably not. Probably he's a lovely fellow who loves his mum and pays his taxes. He may even ride fixed and post on here and come out for social rides.

But after he learns what his bosses are up to, even if he stays because he needs to pay the rent and he's got a kid on the way or something, he has been to some small degree infected with their evil because he has to tolerate it, even if he doesn't have a choice. Of course he might just not give a shit.

But to me, it does boil down to Trafigura being evil and in need of calling out and scrutinising.

Could be an interesting debate on personal vs. collective responsibility.

On the other hand...

It might be a simplification to say a whole corporation is evil, but there is definite evil going on there -

who made the decision to offload the toxic waste when they knew the risks to human life? Who, once that decision had been made, subsequently covered it up? who fought the fight to deny compensation for those maimed by the waste? People who put all morals aside in pursuit of the bottom line. People happy to let children die for more money, or to shield and enable those that do so. Evil-doers. And evil-enablers.

Is the receptionist at Trafigura evil? probably not. Probably he's a lovely fellow who loves his mum and pays his taxes. He may even ride fixed and post on here and come out for social rides.

But after he learns what his bosses are up to, even if he stays because he needs to pay the rent and he's got a kid on the way or something, he has been to some small degree infected with their evil because he has to tolerate it, even if he doesn't have a choice. Of course he might just not give a shit.

But to me, it does boil down to Trafigura being evil and in need of calling out and scrutinising.

And I'm definitely supportive of your view of the situation - just to make that clear.

It's something that occurred to me recently in terms of my own job - as a senior manager, both I and the people around me have to make decisions to further the organisation's aims - but it seems that in order to justify our actions, we attempt to dehumanise those actions instead.

I don't imagine these decisions are specific acts of malice (although I know many whom I genuinely believe go out of their way to cause pain), but when you're so far removed from the front line, it's easy to dislocate yourself from the human impact of your decisions.

But of course, examples like Shell being responible for the deaths - no, murders - of familes on Nigerian land allocated for oil drilling, well, I'm sure they knew what was going to happen, regardless of how 'dislocated' from the process they were...

One to add:

KBR

Flipcam Flashmob! Protest outside Trafigura Offices (Oxford Street)

Do you love the BBC? Do you love freedom of speech? Do you hate corporate bullies?

Then join us at 1pm on Thursday, November 26th. We’re going to ‘flashmob’ Trafigura outside their office, at the Marble Arch end of Oxford Street.

This protest will be an act of defiance against Trafigura’s attempt to stop the UK media reporting the fact that their toxic waste is alleged to have caused illness and burns to tens of thousands of people in the Ivory Coast, along with over a dozen deaths.

Was nice knowing you Tiswas

Banks have won their Supreme Court battle to keep on charging overdrawn people massive admin fees.

nnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnhnHHHHHHHFRRRRGHGHGH

I propose a 'smear faeces around the City' ride

This is getting me down in a big way.

http://www.boston.com/bigpicture/2010/05/disaster_unfolds_slowly_in_the.html

Holy Shit. Those pictures are unreal Balki.

This is getting me down in a big way.

http://www.boston.com/bigpicture/2010/05/disaster_unfolds_slowly_in_the.html

i know... it is disgusting.

This is getting me down in a big way.

http://www.boston.com/bigpicture/2010/05/disaster_unfolds_slowly_in_the.html

Its a fucking disgrace, i felt like forwarding this to every lazy git i know who takes there car for pointless journeys. (of course not the only use of oil but still)

Surprise surprise the giant funnel plan didn't work.

Great photos, but really very sad.

it's heartbeaking.

I heard on the BBC this morning that a proposal for their next strategy is to stuff the well with old tyres and bits of wood. Bits of fucking wood!!!

We are fucked, earthlings.

Interestingly, Halliburton were involved in the construction of the well. Is there a more bent company opearting on the planet at the moment?

hopefully bp get bent over backwards for this one.

7 Union Carbide employees face 2 years in jail after first convictions relating to Bhopal disaster.

2 years... 26 years on. bloody hell.

http://www.guardian.co.uk/world/2010/jun/07/bhopal-disaster-india-sentences

Doesn't bode well for immediate recompense from BP.