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• #4677
I guess it did, it's a heavy image. I haven't looked at the link, but seeing these death machines lined up, operated by faceless humans with the smallest things that break the uniformity - the names that try to humanise the planes, the tally of symbols that so absurdly understate the destruction caused. it's pretty sobering.
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• #4678
It is a powerful image but what you are looking at are killing machines and the image does not reference that except for the bomb emblems on the fusilage worse the descriptioned referenced is nothing but poorly written propaganda which glorifies killing whilst not mentioning the pain.
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• #4679
what you are looking at are killing machines
This picture does not in anyway earn the credit to be placed in picture of the day.
Bullshit. So we can't have any images showing suffering or those who inflict it? Because it's 'bad' you expect us to shun its potency as an image? Should we accompany every macho, aggressive photo with a disclaimer and a neutralising image of child being blown to pieces? Grow up FFS.
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• #4681
oh not, i was not at intending to glorify it, I am fully aware of the horiffic implications of the machines pictured. just thought it was an intriguing image and story, the idea of the family life behind a faceless pilot
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• #4682
It is a powerful image but what you are looking at are killing machines and the image does not reference that except for the bomb emblems on the fusilage worse the descriptioned referenced is nothing but poorly written propaganda which glorifies killing whilst not mentioning the pain.
The photo is posted here, we're all fairly intelligent, we get that they're killing machines.
The link goes to airforce-magazine.com... what do you expect?
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• #4683
It's also an interesting image because these are awesome, mesmerising pieces of technology, regardless of their purpose.
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• #4684
Alright folks. Pictures of flowers and cute animals only.
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• #4686
http://i48.tinypic.com/ixzggl.jpg
It could be right for the t-shirt too.
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• #4687
Only users lose drugs.
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• #4689
Niave, glory seeking twaddle every mark on that aeroplane's cockpit is a mark of death, of generally totally innocent people trying to keep their lives together in a harsh world. This picture does not in anyway earn the credit to be placed in picture of the day.
Naive sanctimonious twaddle.
Who are you trying to impress?
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• #4690
meh, I don't want to put words into Zebras mouth but I suspect you might be missing the point.
Whether or not Zebra objects to the existence of F117's (or any other tools of war) is neither here nor there, I would guess that his objection is to the marks alongside the cockpit which glorify death and celebrate the domination of others like notches on a bedpost rather than treating war as a ghastly (though possibly necessary) evil.
I can't claim to know anything about war, but while I can see that it may serve a psychological benefit to "boots on the ground", I find the belittling and dehumanising of ones foes to be an unattractive trait. It is that ugliness that I see in the photo. Whether or not that was the photographers intention is again beside the point, the existence of the photo has sparked a debate which is at least interesting and possibly instructive.
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• #4691
Yeah, fair enough, the marks are a bit
Americanvulgar. They could be the number of missions flown rather than kills made (ever read Catch 22?!), though they are sometimes interchangeable... -
• #4692
Thank you for reminding me to re-read it... among the best books I've read.
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• #4693
http://i47.tinypic.com/2vl4fev.jpg
Nuclear test high five.
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• #4694
I'm going to be a cunt and just say that climbing on a high horse over something so trivial is absurd.
It's an interesting photo, in a photo thread, on a fixed gear bike forum.
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• #4695
Is there a letter on my keyboard that I can customize so that when I strike it, it would type out 'interesting'? Would save me a lot of time on this thread.
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• #4696
Nuclear
Are you sure? Doesn't look like it to me.
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• #4697
^this. tiny cloud to which they are far too close.
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• #4698
Not sure, better be ready, I can't hear the noise from a postcard, so.
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• #4699
Google image search is no help, as it assumes it's nuclear and then only shows results containing 'atomic', 'nuclear' etc.
Possibly a large conventional explosive detonated as part of nuclear related testing
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• #4700
Are you sure? Doesn't look like it to me.
^this. tiny cloud to which they are far too close.
It is. Its from some 1952 tests were they set smaller bombs off near marines to test what would happen.
The atomic cloud formed by the detonation seems close enough to touch, and tension gone, Poth and Wilson do a little clowning for the camera.
May 01, 1952.Credit: Department of Defense. Department of the Navy. U.S. Marine Corps. (09/18/1947).
General Photograph File of the U.S. Marine Corps, 1927 - 1981.
Collection: National Archivesyou have poor google-fu today tester
Wooooah, shit got heavy!