Do you live your life by your principles?

I should have said "from the left"

It's just a jump to the left.

I don't think anyone has taken advantage of any "niceness"

Note to self: Read rest of thread before commenting on initial post.

What I don't understand is why Knoydart's posts sound like someone doing a bad Yoda impersonation.

"Learn you will, rich one, of your error and of death you are deserving" etc.

Good.

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You catch on quick.

I think there's a lot of naivety in what Knoydart's said, particularly in terms of how he/she is defining his/her life choices. Buying from charity shops or being more considerate of others, while reasonably noble, isn't exactly the biggest step change I've ever come across, but then anybody who's willing to reconsider their behaviours and even their existence gets a bit of a thumbs up from me. While you've taken some small steps, I think your thinking still has a long way to go - and a lot of the things you've said have been quite arrogant, given the makeup of some of this community - who certainly aren't as ignorant as you're suggesting.

I interpret 'principle' as referring to a personal or social code of conduct - essentially, defined behaviours or actions that we've either learnt or have had 'imposed' on us as we make our way through life. Many of us don't question these things and accept them as social norms, and I think that this is at the root of what you're saying. Could be wrong though...

The question I'm asking myself right now is why do we live our lives in this way? Where does it say that I have to spend 35hrs a week (actually doing 35hrs for a change would be fantastic...) in a job that I hate, when there's a whole world out there waiting to be discovered. Isn't that a terrible waste of human potential? The interesting thing for me is seeing how people respond when I question the way we live: some seem resigned to living their life in a particular way ("it's just the way it is isn't it?"), while others react with aggression and anger, as if you questioning society is a threat to them and their way of life.

Fair enough, some people will look at their lives and say 'Yes - this is me. This is the way I want to live my life', and that's absolutely fine, but I'd wager that the majority (and by extension, I suspect many of the people who have been so critical of Knoydart's stance) have failed to question their beliefs or their life choices - many living in the express belief that this is the way your life has to be (as dictated by social norms) and there can be no divergence from this existence.

But then, this is a personal journey, and you'll meet very few people who look at life in the same way that you do, but by no means sacrifice your happiness for that reason. I tried 'evangelising' when I was in university, and the truth is that there's no changing some people. Don't let it frustrate you - just make the most of the people who come your way who are like you.

Well that’s 25 minutes I wont get back. For those of you who haven't that time to kill before you clock off here is a summary

Knoydart has discovered some leftist ideals in a cornflake box and is struggling to come to terms with them.
Tynan grilled Clive about the role of common law; I am suspecting he is in trouble for some drug related crime and needs some free help.
Clive got upset as the Knoydart suggested we give away all our wealth, this would mean Clive’s Chef, 3 maids, chauffeur and in house bike mechanic would be out of work and he could no longer screw over the middle classes.

Then a bitter poor courier, wealthy poor-hating lawyer, cross-dressing sheep shy librarian, The Schick and drug addled racist put together some very interesting debate on the difference we can make through how we live our lives

Then Knoydart realised he was in the child pool while the rest were in flipping off the diving board, after page 6 it went down hill, something about rich people not being the same.. no shit, then other stuff that I lost due to the coffee intake then a great Marxist summary by ftony killed a few arguments and explained why this shit works..

Principles!? Still not sure i need any

Fair enough, some people will look at their lives and say 'Yes - this is me. This is the way I want to live my life',

i did

Slag

Whether I am wealthy or not is a matter of relativity or opinion. I do not, however, hate the poor. Afterall, I count WiganWill among my friends.

..and why do you call Velocio a "drug addled racist"?

You/we have demands on ourselves and each other that create and maintain an "average lifestyle" for the masses. The fact that our individual aspirations conflict with this lifestyle is not surprising (and our aspirations would adjust if we did align our lifestyle to them).

The idea that most people would find a different/foreign lifestyle more appealing is optimistic/wrong in my opinion.

Every decision you make affects those around you and becomes part of a bigger reality which you then perceive with your own pre-conceptions and views and then adjust accordingly. The average individual would find chasing idealistic aspirations extremely unfulfilling which is why we cling to more constant elements in day-to-day life.

An individual with a lot of self-worth and potentially self-delusion could find comfort in an "out-there" lifestyle, but this would largely be because of their comparison of their own supposed advantages (be it happiness, intelligence, wealth, etc) over the perceived disadvantages of the average individual. This approach of creating your own bubble of reality (thought -> decision -> belief it's correct) is in my opinion a pretty unhealthy way to live your life.

I reckon the more you project your own identity/thoughts/aspirations, the less you can absorb from your actual lifestyle, evangelising isn't a good thing in my opinion.

Does this make my sincere desire to win £86,000,000 on the Euro Millions a sign of weak character?

Does this make my sincere desire to win **£86,000,000 **on the Euro Millions a sign of weak character?

But why that certain amount?

well, he wouldn't want to be greedy...

Actually that's the minimum I'd want.

Gordon Gecko is my alter ego.

But why that certain amount?

That's the $64,000,000 question.

Slag

Whether I am wealthy or not is a matter of relativity or opinion. I do not, however, hate the poor. Afterall, I count WiganWill among my friends.

you are proof the upper class can live normal lifes. that makes me warm inside

..and why do you call Velocio a "drug addled racist"?

Are you protecting his honour again. love runs deep here, i can feel it

Does this make my sincere desire to win £86,000,000 on the Euro Millions a sign of weak character?

Yes, but
YouTube - Kia-Ora "I'll Be Your Dog"

quite a few of us do not tolerate fools at all.

Speak for yourself, fancy a pint?
;-/

I absolutely loved that Kia-Ora advert!

I can't stand though, that some people get their knickers in a twist, then everything has to pass the BS PC brigade. I also adored Love Thy Neighbour, but most of the children on here are too young to remember that also.