This week's fixtures & results League II (winter 2009/2010)

Holy shit. I've just read through the last pages about ‘that’ goal.

I’m not interested in trying to get the goal counted. I just think it’s important to remember that the league and its rules are still in development. As with the last league, there’ll be situations that arise that find holes in the rules we’ve made and I think we need to use those opportunities to make our rules and the way we implement them more robust. This is one of those times.

On Thursday, ALL of Malice players contested Rik’s decision. Matt contested it longer and more vehemently. I only say this because there seems to be some question about it.

Rik’s call was based on a change to the rules that was agreed by other players for a different match and was not agreed or known about by us. Had he used the rules as they were written and agreed for the league, the goal would have stood. Hence Matt’s frustration.

Rik’s decision was to stand by his call and get the game going again. I totally understand he was trying to be an authoritative ref and we were all feeling under pressure about how little time we had left.

I think we should try to resolve a couple of questions that have come out of this:

We agreed that ‘goal height’ in the league was cone height. Not all cones are the same height. Do we standardise the cones we use? Or do we change the rule so that goal height is cone height unless it is agreed to be otherwise by all 6 players and the ref before the match?

Should we agree that we can appeal against a decision after the fact? It is now standard in professional sports to have an appeal process, so why shouldn't we? Referees’ decisions are over-turned when it is clear from evidence that they were wrong. In future, can we have the right to appeal against decisions?

can of beans?

Yum.

Don't be opening a can of beans Iain!

One of the points that has failed to be mentioned is that mitch does not currently have four of the same cones. There are some of the tall white cones, and some normal cones. I think this has a pretty large effect on Rik's decision (though it's for him to state really). If any of the goals had a normal cone and a tall cone, what is goal height? Is it an angled line? Is it the top of the smallest cone?

If one of cones is a small cone, but the other three are tall cones, then surely the goal height should be the top of the shortest cone, for both goals? no?

i suggest that we measure a cone from newington, get an average height maybe, then spray a marker on the mitch cones at that height. colour above that or below that for clarity. 5 mins. done. standardisederized.

great idea.

or we find something more common than cones, top tube etc, and go with, for example, wheel height, since 90% of us ride 700c? maybe? huh? and we spray that marker point on ALL cones.

One of the points that has failed to be mentioned is that mitch does not currently have four of the same cones. There are some of the tall white cones, and some normal cones. I think this has a pretty large effect on Rik's decision (though it's for him to state really). If any of the goals had a normal cone and a tall cone, what is goal height? Is it an angled line? Is it the top of the smallest cone?

If one of cones is a small cone, but the other three are tall cones, then surely the goal height should be the top of the shortest cone, for both goals? no?

Mike brought two other of the tall thin cones for the match - they were all the same height.

ZU, i heard rumour there footie training at Mitch on Wednesdays. Do we have a Plan B?

Get a length of chain and a decent padlock with several keys.
Find four cones.
Lock them up out of the way.
Leave a key in a designated polo-known hiding space at the court.

Mike brought two other of the tall thin cones for the match - they were all the same height.

didn't know that, sorry.

ZU, i heard rumour there footie training at Mitch on Wednesdays. Do we have a Plan B?

There have been those rumors, never seen it happening.

Broadway if taken? Or there's a lit court on Goldsmith's Row, below Broadway Market.
It's in the middle of an estate behind the Albion.

I think the football guys have only actually been there on a wednesday once.

Anyone around to ref BRBPC vs Sparkle Motion, 18:30 at Mitch?

;1034310']There have been those rumors, never seen it happening.

Broadway if taken? Or there's a lit court on Goldsmith's Row, below Broadway Market.
It's in the middle of an estate behind the Albion.

OKay, happy to meet at mitch and take it from there.

Anyone around to ref BRBPC vs Sparkle Motion, 18:30 at Mitch?

I'll be there early.

Fiasco! when can you polo? we're playing cosmic at the weekend, and maybe we can play you guys too? huh? we haven't decided sat or sunday so let us know and we can maybe sort out a double.

We've penned in 3Beards for 11am on Sunday just before you guys play Cosmic. We could play you guys at 10am, but not after, as I have to leave Downham by 12:30.

;1034388']I'll be there early.

Good times.

if mitch is taken we can go to the Economy Ghetto court

Anyone around to ref BRBPC vs Sparkle Motion, 18:30 at Mitch?

That at Newington tonight? as we are down i can ref/goal ref for Zombies

3 Beards - you are due for a sparkleing on Thursday. what time and where?