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  • I gave up riding through Kensington Gardens a few months ago, when they thought it was a good idea to put 30+ speed bumps on the only East West cycle path. I understand why because the path is shared use, and there are plenty of cyclists who have no regard for anyone else cyclist or pedestrian, however surely a dedicated cycle path is a better alternative. I went through again today, and had to chuckle at the results of their efforts.


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  • I use that route too. Just gives me time to contemplate what drivers ust feel in streets with road humps

  • I'm not sure I would taking to the grass/dirt/mud for the sake of those "speed bumps" that's just a little pave.

  • A fair number of the users of that path are fair weather bikers and can be forgiven for bypassing the pave in favour of the smother grass / dirt bit. And once the trail is laid it becomes very difficult to ignore it :)

    Agreed their speed bumps are kinda funny.

  • It's the usual fallacy that 'self-enforcing' measures will work. They usually don't (with a few honourable exceptions). Enforcement and community engagement are key.

  • Love that desire line picture. So many clueless people in offices

  • I've been told that the powers that be in Hyde Park have already tried this experiment in the past, and removed them again, its a shame that the people who 'plan' Kensington Gardens didn't consult them.

  • Well, that's fixed that then


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  • Looks well shit.

  • Its garbage, the report says there was some increase during construction and now its better/the same.

    ps. There's a whole forum for this kind of thing here:

    https://www.lfgss.com/microcosms/586/

  • Yes but positively -
    Cycle lanes also mean a healthier population. They encourage people to get exercise. Even if you are breathing the polluted air, you are still not breathing as much of it as car drivers, whose air intake is much lower. We will have cleaner, healthier people if we have more cyclists.
    That was Baroness Jones of Moulsecoomb

  • If this bit is true "and now carry as many people as the Victoria line" then that's a pretty impressive figure for what I would suspect is a considerably lower investment than even the recent refurb of the Victoria Line.

  • *The county council blamed a utility company for the mistake. Western Power Distribution said it was arranging for the sign to be repainted on Wednesday.*

    Leave it !

  • Has anyone spotted the danger presented to cyclists by the new cycle lane routing on the A1 north of Archway in N London?

    The route starts with a segregated cycle lane running uphill and parallel with the A1 6 lane dual carriageway. All tickety boo. But.....

    Halfway up the hill the segregated cycle lane ends and joins the bus lane just short of a bus stop. If a bus HAS stopped then the options are:

    Stop behind the bus and wait for it to move; sometimes busses stand here for a few minutes or...

    Overtake the stationary bus which means you're in the middle lane of the 3 lane northbound A1 with all the arse nipping joy of a slow uphill with speeding traffic racing out of London behind you.

    The cfb planner who came up with this isn't a cyclist. He's a sadist.

  • This is a similar design to the one planned for 9 elms.

    Except there they have added loading bays, too.

  • It's weird in the other direction too. Short segregated lane dumps you in the middle of the pavement. Never seen anyone using it.

  • I've written to David.shannon@islington.gov.uk cycling officer to share my concerns.

  • Just seen this. The segregated cycle lane in the borough of Islington spits the poor person on a bike out onto the A1 metres away from Islington's boundary with Borough of Haringey. The orange line on Hornsey Rise is the boundary line. Hmmmmm.....


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  • From my experience Haringey is pretty shit with cycling provision. Their current transport plan appears to be more electric cars ...

  • It was redesigned and rebuilt under the dangerous junctions scheme by Boris. Like Oval it suffers from being a piecemeal approach. The road running up the hill isn't a junction and was therefore outside of the designers remit. I would also say there is a flaw in the philosophy of peninsularisation, where one arm of the gyratory is closed, cf. E&C. It adds a ton of complexity to the junction design and without the political will to provide time as well as space through the junction it's a mixed bag for segregated cycling.

    The obvious and tried solution is a bus stop bypass as you have on Blackfriars and elsewhere. Sadiq has been thoroughly underwhelming so far in producing infrastructure so don't expect any changes soon.

  • The segregated cycle lane in the borough of Islington spits the poor person on a bike out onto the A1 metres away from Islington's boundary with Borough of Haringey.

    The local authorities are not the highway authorities for the A1 here, that's TfL (look for red lines/Red Routes). While the boroughs will have had some input, most of the responsibility for the scheme lies with TfL.

  • there is a flaw in the philosophy of peninsularisation

    As with every design choice, peninsularisation is good for some uses, and entirely wrong for others. It started to become a 'thing' when it was considered for Highbury & Islington (with requisite bus operation outside the station), many moons ago (not too long after a different Islington administration rigged the consultation on Newington Green, where a similar scheme was one of the options that they didn't want). There it makes sense, as there's something worth preserving in the centre of the junction (although, paradoxically, it has partly become this because of the current difficulty of access).

    At Archway, too, as there was no way of routing the A1 through the old town centre again and the small cluster of buildings there shouldn't be knocked down, it's the only possibility--although it is admittedly a bit of a hodge-podge, it's still a great victory for the dedicated band of campaigners who brought it about.

    As you say, peninsularisation doesn't work at E&C, which is an utterly disastrous scheme in every respect, a huge waste of public money and a textbook example of how not to treat a site with the potential to be a major town centre (which it has had for a very long time) rather than a major transport interchange, a non-place on the way to somewhere else.

    The worst threat posed by peninsularisation is actually at the Old Street/City Road junction, where a horrific proposal to construct a major tower block in the centre of the junction would destroy any potential for a decent streetscape, and where peninsularisation is basically meant to be used to maintain excessive peak hour motor vehicle flows along the Inner Ring Road alignment. We're told that without this 'London would grind to a halt'--er, no, it wouldn't. I hope this one can be stopped somehow, but I doubt it. Most of the deals seem to have been made under Boris Johnson, although I'm not up-to-date on it.

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