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• #27
So they're making guilt assessments based on how plausible/middle-class/sycophantic someone is to them in their reply?
Like flies to wanton boys, are we to the po po :(
Get thee to a nunnery.
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• #28
They ask questions, if you sound suspicious they can take things further. I was with Fatpants who was wearing his bikehut work shirt and I said we'd just been building it up at his shop, the copper also asked about where he works. We also pointed out that some of the old bits of my bike where now on my girls bike, as i'd upgraded. What more do you think he should've done?
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• #29
Get thee to a nunnery.
Brevity is the soul of wit, numbnuts.
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• #30
Brevity is the soul of wit, numbnuts.
exuent stage left pursued by a bear......
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• #31
If I had the same motivation as the copper in question, I would quite possibly have done the same. I would, however, have known that I had no lawful authority to compel magpie to provide their name and address, should they have chosen not to provide it.
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• #32
I was looking at a bike stand in Hammersmith with an ex, pointed out some of the bikes and how they were SO not locked properly - some of the actually deserved to get nicked, just to teach muppets that a £5 lock that looks like it was made by FisherPrice is really not enough.
Up come two coppers behind us and ask "Excuse me, can we help you Sir?" which was met with "Why yes officer, I'm just showing her ladyship here how NOT to lock your bike..." Followed by a five minute rant about bicycle theft, people making their bikes a target, encouraging theft and whether the police in that area do roadshows like the one I ran into in Holborn a couple of months earlier, teaching people to lock up properly in exchange for a few freebies. That wasn't the answer they were expecting... But at least they asked.
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• #33
I had to get the locks drilled to get into my flat last week so I called a locksmith who came out and did a fairly speedy job of said locks. Half way through I asked him how he knows that he's not drilling the locks out for a burglar... he said that most of the time he goes on his perception of the person (which I guess is what the aforementioned police officers did when they met someone who didn't look shifty and gave them a straightforward answer to their questions). The locksmith then added that it was rare for a burglar to come out for an evening of breaking and entering wearing a bright red t-shirt, shorts, cycling shoes and riding a fixie... fair point I thought, as everyone knows burglars are invariably dressed in stripy t-shirts with a swag-bag over their shoulder.
Anyway, my point is that sometimes the police just have to make a decision based on their perception, I suppose.
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• #34
I'd prefer names, addresses, frame details and frame numbers were taken.
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• #35
When the police stop you they do it because they have 'reasonable' suspicion. Whether they take it further from there or let you go will depend on how and what you answer. While you aren't obliged to give name and address, failing to do so is much more likely to push you into the follow up category than the let you go category. Which could then lead to a search and further action if you actually happen to be carrying something suspicious.
So, while I don't have to give my name and address, it's easier to. Of course the criminals do as well, but they tend not to give real ones which may get them off, or it may not.
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• #36
weren't the police taking name and address details in case he was lying? incase someone ran after them 30 min later saying 'my bikes been nicked'?
What if the OP had refuse to provide name & address
Why would he do that unless he was a nob?
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• #37
weren't the police taking name and address details in case he was lying? incase someone ran after them 30 min later saying 'my bikes been nicked'?
Why would he do that unless he was a nob?
police shouldn't let someone go if they suspect of theft, you can't assume someone is potentially guilty and not do anything.
there are plenty of reasons to not give the popo you name and address, the primary one being because you don't have to.
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• #38
two in the goo one in the poo!
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• #39
there are plenty of reasons to not give the popo you name and address, the primary one being because you don't have to.
I can't think of any reason when, if asked by the police, i would choose not to give them my name and address.
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• #40
You know you can get gloves for that...
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• #41
two in the goo one in the poo!
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• #42
surely it's "two in the pink one in the stink"
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• #43
"Two in the ...."
two in the goo one in the poo!
surely it's "two in the pink one in the stink"
You guys are slow. I said it after the photo!
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• #44
If you've nothing to hide, you've nothing to fear, after all.
You are being sarcastic, non?
[quote=n3lson}
I can't think of any reason when, if asked by the police, I would choose not to give them my name and address.[/quote]
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• #45
there are plenty of reasons to not give the popo you name and address, the primary one being because you don't have to.
Would one of them be riding a bike you just nicked?
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• #46
You guys are slow. I said it after the photo!
No, you said "two in the"..
A bird in the hand is worth TWO IN THE bush is what you were talking about, obviously.
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• #47
it would be yes. but a cop who cant tell if you're riding a bike thats nicked is a shit/human cop. you can't assume everyone riding a bike and wheeling one that their nicked.
another would be you dont want your details left on a bus, another would be you don't want your details on a database, another would be you don't give your details out to strangers. thats what my mother told me not to do.
today i experienced cops coming to a pub and saying "we're just checking no one is drunk" how antagonistic do you want to be? thanks pete and alugeh.
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• #48
Would one of them be riding a bike you just nicked?
No, because that would be the time when reason would dictate that you did give your name and address. (You would be obliged to)
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• #49
Surely that would be the time you gave someone else's address?
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• #50
No, you said "two in the"..
A bird in the hand is worth TWO IN THE bush is what you were talking about, obviously.
I was scared to say the 2 in the pink 1 in the stink line..
So they're making guilt assessments based on how plausible/middle-class/sycophantic someone is to them in their reply?
Like flies to wanton boys, are we to the po po :(