Old bill in doing their job shocker

Oh so you're alive then Scott....... ?

It said on TV you could legally piss on your own near side back wheel of your car.
Not sure if you'd want to.

Does that mean its also legal to piss on the back wheel of your bike?

Oh so you're alive then Scott....... ?

I'm alive, my kids are back in Scotland, and my phone is back on.

Does that mean its also legal to piss on the back wheel of your bike?

if you have mudguards or want a yellow back...

Cool, PM'ed.

I merited two police with lights and sirens to fine me for urinating down a drain.

They had been tipped off by the CCTV operator and raced to catch me red handed.

Needless to say there was not much else happening in Winchester on a Sunday night it would seem.

If I had been rather more polite they would conceivably have let me go with a ticking off, but I was "in drink" as they say and started referring to them as Sherlock and Columbo from the off, which seemed to annoy them.

That pee cost me £60 in the end.

isn't that what the IPCC and our local MPS's are for? We lobby them, they lobby the po po?

You made the statement "we have the power to alter the way the police do their job" - I was simply asking you to explain how you think this is possible, but you seem to be backing up your assertion with questions.

So, can you name something (anything) about the police that you feel you could alter by contacting your local MP ?

if you have mudguards or want a yellow back...

What if you reverse the tyre so the water dispersing tread is facing in the opposite direction?

Hypothetically speaking......

I merited two police with lights and sirens to fine me for urinating down a drain.

They had been tipped off by the CCTV operator and raced to catch me red handed.

Needless to say there was not much else happening in Winchester on a Sunday night it would seem.

If I had been rather more polite they would conceivably have let me go with a ticking off, but I was "in drink" as they say and started referring to them as Sherlock and Columbo from the off, which seemed to annoy them.

That pee cost me £60 in the end.

:)

That sounds about the size of it - politicized revenue collectors.

They had been tipped off by the CCTV operator and raced to catch me red handed.

you might wanna see a doc about that

To be fair if I'd not pee'd in site of the CCTV/been a lippy drunk bloke that pee would have cost me nothing.

I have been very glad of the police when two groups of Pompey "gentlemen" started trying, with vim and vigour, to kill each other in a pub I was the manager of at the time.

You made the statement "we have the power to alter the way the police do their job" - I was simply asking you to explain how you think this is possible, but you seem to be backing up your assertion with questions.

So, can you name something (anything) about the police that you feel you could alter by contacting your local MP ?

I think if I contacted my local MP and asked if the police could stop people vandalising the swimming baths while they got restored, he would talk to the local police head honcho and see what he had to say, if he said yes, i'll increase the amount of officers then there we go, bobs yr uncle. If he said 'no, we do what we want' i'd expect may MP to take it to the next level, etc until it was done, hopefully involving other mps that had had the same problem and a big expensive public enquiry where heads would roll.

Sure, i read the papers and i see the police doing questionable things, but that is not all of the police, and we have the power to alter the way the police do their job as well . . .

isn't that what the IPCC and our local MPS's are for? We lobby them, they lobby the po po?

So, can you name something (anything) about the police that you feel you could alter by contacting your local MP ?

I think if I contacted my local MP and asked if the police could stop people vandalising the swimming baths while they got restored . . .

How is asking the police to fufill their duty - changing the nature of the police force in any meaningful way ?

For a moment I thought your statement ("we have the power to alter the way the police do their job") was meaning to say that we had the capacity to influence what powers are granted to the police - but it seems by your answer here that you simply meant that we have the power to ask our MPs to report a crime on our behalf.

If he said 'no, we do what we want' i'd expect may MP to take it to the next level, etc until it was done, hopefully involving other mps that had had the same problem and a big expensive public enquiry where heads would roll.

This simply shows a lack of understanding as to why MPs cannot (and should not) have influence over the day to day running of the police force. Your above scenario - MPs following your complaint through 'until it was done' - is fantastical, no MP would dare to be seen to attempt to influence the police force to such a degree.

You might want to look into why our system of government is split into three distinct parts - the executive, the judicial and the legislative - and why it would be very dangerous to have an entirely politicized police force.

So are you saying the police force is self governed and makes its own rules and is unaccountable?

Just met two nice and helpful coppers on bikes in Brixton.

Some crazed slag with a Croydon facelift decided to get all up in my behind on Coldharbour Lane, beeping her horn and telling me to 'get off the fucking road' or she'd 'run me over'.

She then passed me fast with about 2 inches space, turned into me, then braked hard. I gave chase as she screamed "What the fuck you gonna do?".

Leon and Steve appeared from round the corner so I flagged them down and gave them all the details. 2 Independent witnesses also chipped in on my behalf and there's CCTV so am slightly hopeful.

Sometimes seems like it's better if they hit you though.

The Oracle and other popo forums might disagree with you on that one.

The consensus there is (if memory serves) that such a request would be unenforceable, and that only active obstruction would be an offence.

Meh. It's just something I vaguely remember from studying for promotion. It's a seperate offence to obstruction, which I think is part of the police act or police reform act rather than common law.

Anyways, I was only mentioning it off hand and am keeping out of any serious discussion!

maybe the love that would be shared through consensual sex would sort out the conflict

@ Ben

If someone acts innapropriately towards you whilst your cycling do you get to show them your warrant card?

I'd be sorely tempted to do that when some scrote tried to run me orf the road…

So are you saying the police force is self governed and makes its own rules and is unaccountable?

Ha ! :D

Silly straw man arguments respectfully ignored.

@ Ben

If someone acts innapropriately towards you whilst your cycling do you get to show them your warrant card?

I'd be sorely tempted to do that when some scrote tried to run me orf the road…

Oh I don't cycle, I'm just here to infiltrate all you RLJers and bring you down ;-)

But srrriously, I've been lucky enough thus far not to be on the receiving end of any particularly shit driving.

I'd probably show out if I or someone else nearly got killed but for the minor things I prefer to stay as an anonymous citizen and hurl abuse instead!

I'd probably show out if I or someone else nearly got killed but for the minor things I prefer to stay as an anonymous citizen and hurl abuse instead!

Amen !

Oh I don't cycle, I'm just here to infiltrate all you RLJers and bring you down ;-)

Did you buy one of the RLJ t-shirts ? It would be the ideal disguise for an undercover cycling rozzer.

I remember a story where some dude was getting some verbal from a motorist which included calling him a wanker. He promptly replied 'that's sargent wanker to you mate', which shut the driver up pretty sharpish.

apparently sargent is a good rank to choose as it could be an army rank and you are therefore not impersonating a police officer.