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  • I'm an internet hardman? :D

  • How about stopping buying stolen bikes and closing brick lane? Oh and majority of the bikes on gumtree

  • How about stopping buying stolen bikes and closing brick lane? Oh and majority of the bikes on gumtree

    won't work, they'll move elsewhere and people still want to buy stolen bike.

  • I'm an internet hardman? :D

    Pissing contest time?

  • Pissing contest time?

    Eh, no thanks

  • Who is buying all these stolen bikes? That's what I don't understand.

    @plurabelle - that's fucking weird - I'd just have ran off.

  • This is why I love Mr. Fried Chicken's story of his Brick Lane reposession. It's hitting the buyers. Clearly the tea leaves will do as they always do and we can only make it difficult. Nailing the buyer when they're out of pocket is a much better way to drop the bottom out of the market. If that happened enough then people would think twice about buying. Fewer buyers would reduce the market.

  • Who is buying all these stolen bikes? That's what I don't understand.

    anyone, especially in this day and age those who think it's stupid to pay £400 for a decent bike, so they buy a stolen one knowing fully well it's stolen but don't care.

  • I know a lovely girl at work who bought a bike there and it was undoubtedly stolen. She even realises that.

    The thing is, she's not evil or malicious but thinking that it's easier to get one there then to buy one from a shop. I can only say so much and tell her it's likely to be nicked again given her locking style. There is a market for it. Hitting the buyers is far more likely to yield returns than hitting the thieves.

  • Eh, no thanks

    So not a real internet hardman then.

  • Steal her bike and see how she likes it..

  • She lives in Hackney. It will be stolen.

  • Steal her bike and see how she likes it..

    I like your thinking

  • She lives in Hackney. It will be stolen.

    so location? I want another bike

  • I know a lovely girl at work who bought a bike there and it was undoubtedly stolen. She even realises that.

    The thing is, she's not evil or malicious but thinking that it's easier to get one there then to buy one from a shop. I can only say so much and tell her it's likely to be nicked again given her locking style. There is a market for it. Hitting the buyers is far more likely to yield returns than hitting the thieves.

    exactly, there's no specfic kind of people who buy those bike, it's anyone, and they know it's stolen/likely to be stolen, unless they're really that stupid.

    if buyer don't buy stolen bicycle, then the theft can't make any money, and will have to think twice. but of course, it's a lots harder to convinced a lots of people to not buy stolen bike.

  • @plurabelle - that's fucking weird - I'd just have ran off.

    I was flat hunting and had to see somewhere on that road ten minutes later. Doesn't bode well for the area, does it... :D

  • I was flat hunting and had to see somewhere on that road ten minutes later. Doesn't bode well for the area, does it... :D

    Belgravia's a bastard

  • I was flat hunting and had to see somewhere on that road ten minutes later. Doesn't bode well for the area, does it... :D

    It's a pretty grim review isn't it?

    I agree that hitting the buyers of stolen bikes is more likely to help reduce thefts but there should also be stronger deterrents. Does anyone ever get caught and punished adequately for bike theft?

  • Belgravia's a bastard

    I know, ghastly.

    clutches pearls and looks out over the arboretum

  • I know, ghastly.

    clutches pearls and looks out over the arboretum

    I found the Gillie drawing a sketch of my Brompton in the Folly yesterday; what is one to do?

  • I know, ghastly.

    clutches pearls and looks out over the arboretum

    Next time send the foot man.

  • I found the Gillie drawing a sketch of my Brompton in the Folly yesterday; what is one to do?

    tell him you want to catch a salmon and get the under-keeper to fashion a maquette of your old ordinary from pheasant shit.

  • I locked my bike to a busy bike stand on a quiet street in North London the other day and sat across the road outside a cafe having a cup of tea. There were lots of new ridgebacks etc locked there too, some with extremely shit locks, and a few old geared Raleighs. Plus one Langster. As I was reading my book, I saw a couple of kids on mountain bikes turn up to the stand. They examined all the bikes, took phone pictures of my bike (a rusty old track frame) and the shiny Langster, and then sent some text messages. they then sat there, waiting patiently. I guess the 'scout' system means that the people they're texting can then turn up with the right toolage for that particular lock. If they want your bike, they want it.

    I finished my tea and went and got my bike. They called me a 'mug' and pulled an imaginary trigger at me :(

    I think the best way to defeat this kind of stealing to order is to ride a really obscure kind of bike , like my SS recumbent and lock it up with heavy duty locks. Not sure there's that many people in the market for something so unusual

  • I think the best way to defeat this kind of stealing to order is to ride a really obscure kind of bike , like my SS recumbent and lock it up with heavy duty locks. Not sure there's that many people in the market for something so unusual

    Dont be so sure

    http://www.londonfgss.com/thread23641.html

    The sad thing is that i reckon a lot of the bikes that are stolen are ridden around for a couple of days then dumped in a canal/river or similar - younger thieves in particular only steal them for the buzz, might flog em to another youth on the manor, but generally just nick em, ride em till their bored of it then dump it

  • Dont be so sure

    http://www.londonfgss.com/thread23641.html

    The sad thing is that i reckon a lot of the bikes that are stolen are ridden around for a couple of days then dumped in a canal/river or similar - younger thieves in particular only steal them for the buzz, might flog em to another youth on the manor, but generally just nick em, ride em till their bored of it then dump it

    Yea i read about that. Owning a recumbent ("bent") i followed the thread with particular interest. I deffo agree, the majority of bike thefts are thefts of opportunity.

    The problem with many recumbent is that they have a "stick frame" and don't have any "triangles" to be able to securely lock them up with. I think this may have been the case with the ratcatcher. So I specifically chose a model that has a triangle to put locks through so i could leave it locked up to streat furniture. I usually use a fug mini u and a granite x plus. I think this level of locks would deter the casual opportunist type thief and I think what i was trying to say is the fact it's a bent would (im hoping) deter the professional type thief as there is virtually no resale market appart from some of the parts, which aren't particually expensive any way.

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