Grrr - driver altercation

drunken cyclists ready to topple in front of me.

Ahh, you've ridden behind Murtle from West's as well then.

grrr

fucking idiot drivers, and if another idiot tries the "you don't pay road tax" line then they they require instant application of death to face

Last sunday, cycling down Hackney Rd, I came up to a red light and snuck inbetween two cars to get in front. I was poised in a bad excuse for a trackstand waiting for the light to go green, when it went orange the cunt behind me drove straight into my back wheel. I quickly recovered and turned around to get a good look at him, he drove up to me with his window open and I said "what the fuck were you thinking?" and he screamed "another time then eh?"

No injury or bike damage, just left me shaking with anger. I read recently about pretty much the same thing happening to someone else with the driver yelling "next time call me if you want to die" or something similar.

I was too surprised and off guard to think about getting his license plate.

I've been over the bonnet of a left turner. He overtook and turned left immediatley with his windows misted up in the rain. I don't remember a lot of it but a few weeks later I found a business card in my wallet. Then it came back to me that the guy in the passenger seat had told me the driver was an idiot who shouldn't have been driving with fogged up windows and was a bit of a crap driver too. He'd given me their business card to get me to complain to the company. I must have hit my head or something and been concussed as I couldn't remember a lot of what happened.

Always best to assume the worst. Don't assume that not signalling left doens't mean they're not going top turn left.

Importantly ride well out from the left of the lane you're in. Hog the road a bit. It's safer even if it does piss the occaisional person off.

Getting in to an arguement with someone is never really going to get you any where. If they're prepared to argue with you it's very unlikely they'll back down and agree with you. Even if they know they're in the wrong.

...Start crossing Pepys as coast is clear and this dude starts to turn left in front of me. I stopped my bike,

This is were you went wrong, at least throw yourself over his bonet, that should scare him into looking or even indicating next time, even better if you can snap his wing mirror off.

The best defense is offence.

Failing that I sugest carrying small molotov cocktails and burning the fucker alive...

Sorry... had a bit of a stressful cycle home... was seriously about to crash into the next ped that stepped out or car that turned without indicating... I need some medicine. Polo...

All drivers are stupid.
All drivers are blind and have no idea I am there.
The few drivers that have seen me are activly out to kill me.
All drivers are cnuts.
All peds have a death wish.

Simple rules that have kept me alive whilst toodling around our fair city, so far.

i haven't read the whole thread but has someone pointed out that cars can't turn from arbuthnot onto pepys because there's one of those funny gates at the end of it.

i can only sympathize however because going up any of those hills is fucking bullshit and annoying. enough already

also if you weren't just cycling around for fun and trying to get home i'd suggest going straight through new cross and turning up lewisham way then crossing at the traffic lights onto shardeloes and into brockley that way. i find the hill on lewisham way much easier.

Oh, you're right. I forget which street it was. But it's also annoying to go any other way to get to that particular section of Brockley from East Dulwich. I'd rather do the hill! : )

I just found this thread again after having a driver go apeshit at me after I said watch out when she was passing too close between parked cars (driver opening door), me, and a raised curb. She fucking revved her engine at me, shouted that I am the one who has to be careful, revved her engine again, shouted some more, revved her engine and said I was lucky she didn't... what, she never said, but I can guess.

jayloo is morphing into Dancing James.

There's a tiny bit of Dancing James in all of you...

Rob, that comment is wrong on so many levels.

awww, c'mon, it's been a year since I posted the first one! (but yes, I do yell at drivers too much)

oh damn, logged in as aram...

I hate when she does that.

Blimey, first she's James and now she's Aram.

Clever stuff. Certainly beats Aram's time machine.

if another idiot tries the "you don't pay road tax" line then they they require instant application of death to face

I've never had anyone use that line on me. I've always wanted one to.

Cos it's going to be fun asking them why they'd be so stoopid as to suggest something like that. Well, being as road tax pays for the DVLA, and bikes don't have number plates, why would they say something as foolish as suggesting bikes pay tax for a number plate they don't have? Roads are paid for out of INCOME TAX (as far as I'm aware) and I pay more income tax than the average motorist, plus they do ten times more damage to the surface OF MY ROADS than my bike does, then actually, I'M SUBSIDISING THEM USING MY FUCKING ROADS!!!

Regarding the OP: The argument I've used is: "Would you have turned left across the front of another car? Well in the eyes of the law, I'm the same as a car - so legally, you're in the wrong. It's that simple. And if you do ever kill someone, you'll be at fault. Sorry mate. shrug No point in arguing with me - that's just the law."

Seemed to work.

I told a guy today, who drove in front of me and cut me out of my line, only to have to stop at a red light, "I'm the same as a car, legally." He said, "No, you're not. If I get in a collision, I'm fine. If you do, you're not." Jerk.

Just got my bike serviced today. Was running like a dream.
Then cycling a few streets away from my house cycling clearly in the middle of the road at a good speed. Some stupid women decides to make a fast u turn from the parking bays on the left a metre in front of me.

Queue squealing of my breaks and me banging into the side of her car.
I naturally ask her what the fuck she was doing to which she mumbled something and carried on her illegal u turn and drove off the other way; because hit and run is fine if its a bike. Too in shock to race after or get a number plate.

Nice lightly buckled wheel hopefully nothing else and fat bruise on my arm. Back to the shop again!

^^^^ That sucks.